Two years?! How can you bear it?? I barely lasted three months. I don't want to be reinstated anymore because of exactly that kind of thing. It's emotional blackmail, poppet.
They're horrible people.
we have been dfed for almost 3.5yrs and have been trying to get back in for 2 yrs and we are getting the runaround.. anyway..... here is the letter my pregnant wife received from her elderess pioneer mother.. .
dear mary,.
i am writing to ask you please do not try to talk to me until you are reinstated.
Two years?! How can you bear it?? I barely lasted three months. I don't want to be reinstated anymore because of exactly that kind of thing. It's emotional blackmail, poppet.
They're horrible people.
to everyone looking at these pages you are all demonic and will be judged when jehovahs day is near dont leave it to late you sinners of satan!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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i am writing because i am tired of people talking about rumours that they heard about dave madzay,he was the kindest , most intelligent man i ever new, yes he was df but only jehovah can judge him for things he did, no one else.he was an elder very high up in bethel who gave the most wonderful talks, helped many people,brought a lot of people into the truth and yet when he died not one jw attended his funeral.
how sad that a man who was so high up in bethel could be treated like this...........i was brought up in the truth until i was 15 , and turned away because of how dave was treated, even though dave had jehovah in his heart right up until his last breath and did everything he could do to be reinstated but sadly never was.........................i know i knew him
I knew Dave since I was just a kid, and grew up in his Cong. He was certainly a much loved and very carismatic person who despite his prominent position still had the "common touch". It was very sad to see his life take a tragic turn, and very tragic that so many ignored him in his final years. I remember one of the things he used to do was occassionally on a Sunday if it was a hot day, he would get up on the platform after the morning meeting and announce that their was no field service and we were going to have a picnic at the beach instead. He was clearly a very indiepndent thnker, and quite entrepeneurial, which is probably a part of why he ultimately did not fit into the borg as it became a place where everyone had to be the same and there was no place for inividuals. I rememeber going door to door with him one day when I was probably about 15 and talking about what I planned to do when I left school. I mentioned I would like to be a journalist but it would mean going to University (which was a big no no at the time), and he actually said it was a good choice and encouraged me to go for it.
Sounds like my kind of elder!
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i am writing because i am tired of people talking about rumours that they heard about dave madzay,he was the kindest , most intelligent man i ever new, yes he was df but only jehovah can judge him for things he did, no one else.he was an elder very high up in bethel who gave the most wonderful talks, helped many people,brought a lot of people into the truth and yet when he died not one jw attended his funeral.
how sad that a man who was so high up in bethel could be treated like this...........i was brought up in the truth until i was 15 , and turned away because of how dave was treated, even though dave had jehovah in his heart right up until his last breath and did everything he could do to be reinstated but sadly never was.........................i know i knew him
i have been associated with jw's since birth.
i raised my kids in the religion....thinking it was the only way.
recently, my daughter (who was baptized at 15 she is 24 now and has since stopped attending meetings, has been in a relationsip with a man and now has a newborn baby) was invited to a witness wedding and subsequently uninvited b/c she could possibly stumble the jw's who would be attending,since she has had a baby with a non witness and is not married.. .
That sucks. It's that kind of thing that will make your daughter realise that her friends are really all that.
it's been lots of fun.
thanks simon and co. thanks to the many forum members who posted life saving information.
without it, i would still be part of the collective.
Ciao!
(You'll be back).
he was one of the chiefs at the australian bethel during the late 70's early 80's.
i used to enjoy his talks at assemblies - he had something special about him.
he was dfd (supposedly for apostasy).
Oh. Last I heard, disfellowshipped people don't qualify for a resurrection... Ah it doesn't matter, it's not a concept I can get my head around anyway. Or maybe you can help out with this, my confusion with resurrection:
- Person dies before Armageddon (whoever it is that qualifies)
- Jehovah records their physical traits and all knowledge and memories in the book of life so that he can resurrect them later
- During resurrection, Jehovah re-creates a copy of the person who died, and puts their knowlege and memories inside their mind, and they are resurrected
I don't see how this works out for the original person who dies - since it's the copy of them who gets to live in paradise.
he was one of the chiefs at the australian bethel during the late 70's early 80's.
i used to enjoy his talks at assemblies - he had something special about him.
he was dfd (supposedly for apostasy).
I'm sorry to hear you're so blue Donna. I hope you'll be okay. We've just had a beautiful sunny weekend here in the ACT after a tiny bit of rain. I hope it's been a good one for you too.
he was one of the chiefs at the australian bethel during the late 70's early 80's.
i used to enjoy his talks at assemblies - he had something special about him.
he was dfd (supposedly for apostasy).
Shhez cheese, how did I miss a whole new Australian on the board! Welcome Cheese!
OOOPS, just saw how old this post is! Cheers
Welcome Donna!
for saturday morning bookstudy!!!!
thanks for checking on me though.
every meeting now i ask her "so what did you learn at the meeting" and i can tell she is getting tired of answering.
Oompa, why so aggressive - you shouldn't ask her that after every meeting, it would be exhausting for her.