Ha, I just found an old JW friend on facebook, and we were joking about a Live concert we went to years ago, and our mothers reaction to it. Worlds most benign rock band...
sass_my_frass
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For the Born Ins
by dinah inhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6xyb_hmp7ai.
and the words.
and to fear: a flame.
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JW FUNERAL OUTLINE english and spanish PRINT AND TAKE WITH U
by What-A-Coincidence infuneral discourse .
remarks regarding the deceased (use any that apply and are appropriate.
(note: instead of eulogizing the deceased, use the material in this outline to give a fine witness concerning the truth.
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sass_my_frass
Yeah I've heard that talk many times, sometimes verbatim. I'm sure it depends on the person giving it. A few years ago there was a triple funeral - Mother, Son and Sons Wife all killed in a plane accident. Held at the assembly hall under duress of Bethel (don't want to give anybody any special treatment...) Three elders close to all three gave the talk, one for each. They were good enough to talk about each of them a little, but not enough. I think they split the various points of this talk between the three of them. Went for an hour and a half; maybe fifteen minutes of that was about the three who died. These three guys, they were good speakers, and close friends of the deceased, and they still couldn't talk about their lives.
How can it not occur to them that any non-witnesses there would be so much more impressed if the service was dignified and honest?
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VERY BAD NEWS...my son is going to Bethel............
by oompa ini can not describe the sadness of hearing him tell me, i asked him to think about what a great part time job he has, with free schooling.
he says they will probably take him back.
his abilities are suitable for closing down brooklyn, so at least he will be there (i love nyc).
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sass_my_frass
I don't see how anybody could go to Bethel and not see the organisation in a new way; it's just a business, and he'll realise that soon enough.
(And don't listen to WAC)
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History Lesson
by sass_my_frass inhow much do you know about 9/11?.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ccjyhzluuiu&feature=related.
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sass_my_frass
It's just for a laugh mate!
(I had no idea that the homeless were so well dressed).
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Does anybody actually believe in the Global Warming swiz?
by The Nothing Man inobviously by my post title you can gather that i don't, but thats not to say i do not agree with lowering pollution in whichever way we can.
but on the flip side, just another money grabbing ploy by the government?
the uk government is making a big thing about it through their mouthpiece on earth, the bbc.
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sass_my_frass
Me, not really anymore. Even if it's true, I'll be dead. I'm just concerned how we'll transition to oil supply problems and the economy that will have to emerge from that.
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Be Fair = Witnesses are NOT a cult!! What about Christians or democracy?
by Witness 007 inpeople like to throw around the cult word when describing the watchtower society.
but look at the definition of "cult" and you will see it applies to any system of thought concieved by an individual or group to control others.
are christians a jesus cult...yes.
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sass_my_frass
Yes; many things are 'a cult'. I think that Amway and the army are a cult. I went to a chiropractor who I'm sure is running his own little marketing cult. My government department is a little inbred cult.
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Poem from dub friend.
by searchingforfriends ini got this in an e-mail from a childhood friend that is still an active jw.
i found it to be very upsetting and was wondering if anyone else gets the kind of e-mail forwards from friends/family that are still in?
and how you handle it.
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sass_my_frass
Actually the only 'support' I ever got from a JW re my relationship and now marriage was along the lines of reminding me of the dozen 'single sisters' in the kingdom hall and the awful life they have because their husbands aren't witnesses. In my first relationship it shook me to the core and stuff like that actually ended it; I believed everybody and fell for it. I'd never been heartbroken before and it nearly killed me. It turned out for the best though, because I just wasn't ready to live yet. My now husband caught me before I hit the rock bottom and got me back up again. I realised that those women had a horrid life because of their own choice; they were forcing themselves to split their heart completely, and live between two worlds.
That manipulative stuff has one point; you can't pick both sides. The girl in the poem (ignoring the bs about the husband who is only an abusive cheater because he's not a JW), wanted to stay a JW. If she's worked out that it was time to leave now, it would be a different poem.
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Poem from dub friend.
by searchingforfriends ini got this in an e-mail from a childhood friend that is still an active jw.
i found it to be very upsetting and was wondering if anyone else gets the kind of e-mail forwards from friends/family that are still in?
and how you handle it.
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sass_my_frass
Yeah I got that, from several people. It's pretty gross. How to handle it... hmm, well early on I was still caught up in the JW world and it shook me pretty hard, and actually stuff like that was able to really get to me. Later on though I was able to put it and the person who sent it to me into the 'crazy stuff/people to avoid' compartment and politely exit the conversation.
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History Lesson
by sass_my_frass inhow much do you know about 9/11?.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ccjyhzluuiu&feature=related.
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How much do you know about 9/11?
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How do you talk/reason with a Jehovah's Witness?
by misspeaches inhi guys, yesterday someone asked me on how they could reason with a jehovah's witness.
the question just stumped me!.
from my own perspective, the people i know that have left the borg have had varying triggers... problems with flip flopping, dates, abuse, scandals, exhaustaion to name a few.
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sass_my_frass
Talk about the $64K question...
I think that it might be very specific to the individual concerned. People here who are trying to get through to their marriage partners of a lifetime even find that difficult to work out. Think about your own experience; what would have helped you? I know that there was a time for me when, if I suspected that somebody was trying to nudge me out I'd have cut that person out of my life pretty much immediately. It took me a very long time to be ready to think about considering the possibility that there might be another way of looking at things...
I've had a couple of JWs at the door (strangers) and my approach with them is to keep it entirely about my personal experience (edited down to: "My mother became a Jehovahs Witness, and it destroyed our family": (it happens to be true)). There's no way that they can deny something that happened to me. It's not much, and they might just dismiss it immediately, but if they're ever in a situation in life where being a JW is getting to them, many tiny little incidents like that will have cumulated to a point where they might decide to do something about it.
Can they be honest with themselves about how happy they are, and the direction their life is going in? When they are old, will they be glad with the way they have spent their life?