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my dad who owns a busisness...was told he could not do any work for the local catholic church or school...( he had just gotten a big for them)...and he came to find out the elder that forced this issue..( to the co )...himself signed a contract to do all...the churches work...( two diffrent feilds of work they were not in comption with other) my dad has written a letter to the wtbs.....wonder if it will help...what do you think...donald
no cadbury's chocolate.
well if i wasn't already out that would have been the clincher for me.
zaphod
i asked this question as part of another thread but i thought i would ask it in a new thread.
if there were some way to assure that your death would result in your family and friends learning the truth about the wts would you be willing to die to 'save' them?
i wouldn't give my life, but the more i am finding out about the wts, the more i have a burning desire to do something to open their eyes.
unfortunately, the words brick wall and banging my head against come to mind. i can't blame them though. i would have been just the same.
thank goodness my sexual urge was stronger than my spiritual need or i probably would never have got out myself.
zaphod
i saw a debate on here about why men cannot have beards in org and it kinda got me thinking.. if a sister decided that she wanted to go natural (as god intended) and not shave her legs or her armpits (let's leave lady beards - the poor cows have got enough on their plate without engaging in debate about it) would that be frowned upon?.
say, if a french or a german sister came to the congregation, looking like she was wearing afghan boots and had two fair sized hamsters nesting in her pits.
would the brothers have valid reason to counsel her?.
i saw a debate on here about why men cannot have beards in org and it kinda got me thinking.
if a sister decided that she wanted to go natural (as god intended) and not shave her legs or her armpits (let's leave lady beards - the poor cows have got enough on their plate without engaging in debate about it) would that be frowned upon?
say, if a french or a german sister came to the congregation, looking like she was wearing afghan boots and had two fair sized hamsters nesting in her pits. would the brothers have valid reason to counsel her?
if nena (99 red balloons - yes i am knocking on a bit), or julia roberts came into the truth? would a kindly older sister make them a gift of a gillette contour and a can of foam?
just wondered.
zaphod
i wasnt the most academic of children although i had some capability but i could read quite well by the time i was 4 years old at least for my age; i have always read as a child and still read now as an adult both professionally (research) and for pleasure.
i have always been able to write too...and pretty much advanced as well as my peers did in school...perhaps i am lucky, i certainly feel like i am when illiteracy amongst adults and children is rife at present...however.. i remember when i was 16 the wts in the uk were pushing through a scheme teaching those who were not as able to read and write...and an elder in the hall made a point of coming to me and suggesting that i should actually attend the training!!
!....i explained that i could read and write well enough and didnt need to be taught basic literacy... he said that i might learn something new and should respect jehovahs order of things and show appreciation...i did decline his kind offer rather abruptly....but wtf??
i don't know how i bit my tongue, db. i wouldn't do it now.
even worse, this conversation happened on the way to the mental hospital, where the young mother was after trying to take her life after the abuse took place.
i just had a thought. i bet this compassionate sister was counting this visit as time. she obviously didn't really care for the girl and she wasn't baptised, just studying. yep, i bet she even counted the journey as time because i was just studying then too.
holy crap. i need to stop thinking about these shits. they just make me so angry
zaphod
i wasnt the most academic of children although i had some capability but i could read quite well by the time i was 4 years old at least for my age; i have always read as a child and still read now as an adult both professionally (research) and for pleasure.
i have always been able to write too...and pretty much advanced as well as my peers did in school...perhaps i am lucky, i certainly feel like i am when illiteracy amongst adults and children is rife at present...however.. i remember when i was 16 the wts in the uk were pushing through a scheme teaching those who were not as able to read and write...and an elder in the hall made a point of coming to me and suggesting that i should actually attend the training!!
!....i explained that i could read and write well enough and didnt need to be taught basic literacy... he said that i might learn something new and should respect jehovahs order of things and show appreciation...i did decline his kind offer rather abruptly....but wtf??
i have posted this on another thread, but the worst thing an elders wife ever said to me was that a sister was partly to blame for her husband sexually abusing her daughter because she had been withholding sex from him. she had post natal depression at the time.
she also said to me, as i was a single mother at the time, that i may have taken "comfort" from my children when i was alone.
i said i did not like what she was implying and that it was a world of difference between cuddling your child when you are both upset and what that brother had done. she seemed to see no difference and stood by her ideas.
zaphod
what would be the thing that you had most trouble giving up.. for me, apart from thinking, it would be swearing (that's cussin' for our american friends).
i absof*ck*nglutely love effing and blinding and i'm sure that i could not stop.
not even if my life depended on it.
hi crumpet (fellow yellowbelly)
I would find it hard to give up:My freedom of thought
My intelligence
My vibrator
My boyfriend
you put your vibrator ahead of your boyfriend. cool. not so sure about the things you put above it, though
zaphod
p.s.what kind?
what would be the thing that you had most trouble giving up.. for me, apart from thinking, it would be swearing (that's cussin' for our american friends).
i absof*ck*nglutely love effing and blinding and i'm sure that i could not stop.
not even if my life depended on it.
dont think i could ever go back.....i wouldnt give up anything....not for them...
of course none of us would be barmy enough to go back.
but if you did? would it be sunday mornings fishing?
zaphod
what would be the thing that you had most trouble giving up.. for me, apart from thinking, it would be swearing (that's cussin' for our american friends).
i absof*ck*nglutely love effing and blinding and i'm sure that i could not stop.
not even if my life depended on it.
what would be the thing that you had most trouble giving up.
for me, apart from thinking, it would be swearing (that's cussin' for our american friends)
i absof*ck*nglutely love effing and blinding and i'm sure that i could not stop. not even if my life depended on it. which it would.
what would you find hard to give up?
zaphod
