AFIN I love my wife and for that reason there is never a decision of choose the religion or me. I am not scared of what I believe and am up to any challenge. I told my wife if she gets baptised when our kids ask questions she can tell them her view and I will tell them mine. They can take both sides and make the decision based on who has the facts. You have every right to be here because JWD doesnt disclude anyone on the basis of what they believe. Unlike the WTS, here you can ask any question, and nobody has to be afraid about being an independent thinker or questioning things. That is a beautiful thing and maybe you come here to get that because its not in the org. There are times when the facts speak for themselves. The question I asked reveals fact. I think jws get very scared when facts come into play and they have to answer with truth. Its easier to not answer the question, as you and the org have chosen to do, then face the facts. Sort of like when you know your hubby is cheating, and you know where his mistress lives and that hes there, you could drive by and see his car, but you dont. You rest on the faith that maybe he isnt. In your mind, as long as you havent proved it, there is a chance he isnt cheating. Its easier to go on believing maybe he isnt, but deep down you know he is. You dont ask him if hes cheating, cause your afraid of the answer. If the affair becomes public, you have to admit to all your freinds, family, community, that you were too blind to see it was happening, and feel the shame of being cheated on. Its the exact same thing. Very hard to do.
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well its seems my wife has hit a standstill with the dubs.
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well its seems my wife has hit a standstill with the dubs.
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AFIN if you read the earlier posts in this thread you will see that i indeed went to the elders. They said they would not answer my questions because they felt they were from apostates. My one question is simple. Did the WTS misquote people in the creation book to support thier beliefs? My wife and I know the answer is yes because we checked the original aticles. Now if they answer the question with a no they are lying. If they answer yes they prove they arent honest. Or maybe the elders havent checked this out for themselves yet and are too afraid to look and find out the real truth. I think deep down any semi-intelligent jw, such as u AFIN, have thier doubts about the religion. If you had no doubts about it you would answer that question for me. But obviously AFIN you are too scared right now to admit your religion is based on crap. And if you had no doubts u wouldnt be lurking around this board. You are looking for something here. Maybe you are looking for proof that the WTS is real. Or maybe the proof that it isnt. I feel bad for you in a way AFIN, holding onto to something as truth so dearly but deep down doubting it. Mustbe tough. Oh well maybe one day you will be able to show the world the real AFIN.
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But AFIN what is the reason that you cant just explain how you justify these things? You must know what I am talking about since you or on this board. What is your reasoning?
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AFIN you never answered my wifes question so she asked me to post it again. All she wants to know is how you personally justify these things in your mind. There must be a way you justify it or then you would know it was a big crock. Please answer her question.
My husband showed me a bunch of quotes from the creation book that the WTS took out of context. We researched them from the original articles and I must say I was really disturbed by what we found. If the WTS tells us only to believe in what they write, to trust them because they are the truth, then how do I justify believing anything they write if they blatantly take quotes out of context to support thier teachings? I am really disturbed by this can you please help me? -
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AFIN I didnt ask for your so-called common sense. I asked for hard core statistics. My parents were the same faith, they divorced. My wifes parents were both jws. He cheated on her and they divorced. My sister married someone her faith and they divorced. I know many other people of the same faith who have divorced. So I dont think your logic is correct so i was asking for real proof.
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well its seems my wife has hit a standstill with the dubs.
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Sorry so many of you see that poem as 'scare tactics'. If I had read it some years ago, it could have saved me a lot of grief.
Pathetic plea for understanding
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AFIN can you back up that same faith marriages have a better success rate? I think Muslims do pretty well with marriage but I could be wrong. I would guess that most people who get married have the same religious beliefs. Anyone have any statistics on this?
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I can appreciate the poem as a way of warning young ones to seek a marriage partner carefully
AFIN thats fine if you can appreciate the poem for that. But thats not what the writers want you to get from it. If they wanted to warn someone about how to carefully pick a marriage partner then they dont need all the stuff about abuse, hiv, pregnancy, etc.and attribute them to worldly men only. If every JW couple that got married never had any of these problems and if every jw who married a worldly person had these problems then this poem would be appropriate. We all know this is very far from the truth. There is a simple test to establish someones reading level of comprehension. I challenge you AFIN to let any person with a jr high education to read this poem and then ask them what is the author trying to tell you. The results will speak for themselves. Your pleas for understanding are pathetic.
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At least my wife didnt believe that poem when she got it. I told her to look at her own family. Her parents were both dubs. Her dad cheated on her mom after 15 or so years of marriage and there family is a mess right now 10 yrs later. So it doesnt matter what religion you marry its who you marry.