Posts by gringojj

Thanks for all the input. I also wanted to mention the pioneer she studied with is 21 years old and has been completely sheltered by the jws all her life. Its funny because sometimes I would give my wife a good stumper and she would say" I will have to get back to you on that one". She would come back with some half ass answer. In response to the generation question, she returned with a classic line, "it doesnt mean what it says". That was a good one. I gave my wife a bunch of questions to give the elders, all about 1914, the UN, false prophecies, all that stuff. When she first read them she told my wife they were good questions. I realized that was probably the first time she had been exposed to that stuff. The elders declined to answer based on the belief that I had gotten the questions from apostates. The girl then told my wife that she also felt they were apostate. lol. My wife contends i cannot be an apostate because i have never been baptised. Intersting side note. A few months back the girl told me she was going to have a surprise baby shower for my wife and she would let me know when she picks a date. Well i still hadnt heard any date from her and my family wanted to know when it was going to be because my wife was 7 months pregnant(My family has nothing to do with jws but she had said it would be fine for them to come, how nice of them) Well I called her about the same time all the meeting stuff was going down, and she told me she has been so busy she hasnt had time to think about it. So i guess if i hadnt asked she was just not going to say anything. Its obvious she decided not to have it because my wife had been missing meetings. Well my family is now having it and no jws will be invited. I guess thats real love. "I will be your friend as long as you make all your meeings". I am kinda pissed i was looking forward to the dubs buying my wife shower gifts. LOL

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Scientists and evolution

by gringojj in

the wts says evolution didnt happen.

i told my wife that majority of the scientific community believes in evolution.

i think this is true but does anyone know where i can get some hard statistics on what percentage of scientists believe in evolution?

gringojj

I agree it is a theory. Thats why i said i believe it happened. Its just my belief. I agree it probably is 99 percent but how can i prove that? If i ask the elders to show me a credible scientist who can prove creation, who will they come up with?

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My wifes struggle

by gringojj in

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hi friends.

well its seems my wife has hit a standstill with the dubs.

some of you may know my situation, but i guess its all relative anyway.

gringojj

Well shes never been exposed to any other religion so how can she judge the love? I was raised in a congregational church and i always remember love amongst the people there. I even remember we had something called "fellowship hall" After services everyone would go there and have coffee and donuts and chitchat it was very nice. I also recall having church dinners together, spending time with families of other church members, helping out with the food pantry for the less fortunate, hosting soup kitchens, and auctions for charity. I recall it was very nice. I was just an athiest so I dont go anymore.

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Scientists and evolution

by gringojj in

the wts says evolution didnt happen.

i told my wife that majority of the scientific community believes in evolution.

i think this is true but does anyone know where i can get some hard statistics on what percentage of scientists believe in evolution?

gringojj

The WTS says evolution didnt happen. I believe it did. I told my wife that majority of the scientific community believes in evolution. I think this is true but does anyone know where i can get some hard statistics on what percentage of scientists believe in evolution? She said if 95 percent of scientists say its true then she will really start to consider it. Its amazing how sheltered dubs become when all they read is dub literature.

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My wifes struggle

by gringojj in

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friends

hi friends.

well its seems my wife has hit a standstill with the dubs.

some of you may know my situation, but i guess its all relative anyway.

gringojj

Hi friends. Well its seems my wife has hit a standstill with the dubs. Some of you may know my situation, but I guess its all relative anyway. My wife was raised by a strict jw mom and dad and was never baptised. She is 25 now, left home at 17 and started a self destructive path of rebellion. She is one of six kids, all girls, and almost none of the 8 people in her family has any contact with any others. Her mother is the only baptised jw right now, and only calls other family members once in a while to see how they are doing spiritually. So my wife has been studying with a pioneer since last March or so and the official study was finished about a month ago. They were supposed to keep getting together once or twice a week to study other things. My wife is 8 months pregnant, and we have 2 kids already, and it is summer and we do alot of family activities. So needless to say she cant make it to every meeting. This past week her friend told her that she is not going to do the rest of the study unless my wife makes the meetings. So in any case ive been sharing all the great info i have found out about the jws in the past 6 months or so. She has always had some doubts about them so in a way she was glad. So an elder stopped by yesterday to check on her. It is well known that I have been showing her things I have found out about them. I had my wife give them some questions to answer for me and they refused to answer them. In lieu of all the proof I have, they maintain that from scripture you will know the true religion by the love they have amongst each other. So i guess you can be a false prophet, hypocrite, bloodguilty, etc. but as long as you have love for each other you are the true fatih. OK. So I know she really wants me to prove they are false. But she is so scared that she may be wrong and what if she is? I told her if they are right then i wouldnt want to live forever with them anyways. She has so many issues because of them. She feels she needs to make her mom happy, she always feels guilty, its horrible. Well anyways the elder wants to talk to me again. He said that he doesnt want to just argue with me though. I dont want to argue them either. I told my wife that I am just going to tell him that they can tell her whatever they want I dont care, but I am going to tell her what i think about what they say. Well my wife will be reading your replies. Please post anything you can to help her see them for what they really are. Thanks friends.

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WT Comments You Won't Hear

by blondie in

i have decided to take a break from these reviews.

i can post the article with a few introductory comments but then if you want to add your experiences or impressions, that would be great.

i will post this week's tonight.. thanks, blondie

gringojj

A break? I dont think the elders or gb would approve. You didnt take breaks when you were a dub, what makes you think you can take a break from anti-dubbing? I think we should hold a jc on this matter.

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Bad examples of intelligent design?

by gringojj in

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i am trying to think about examples of animals that would be bad for the intelligent design theory.

i like to use the ostrich because it has wings but doesnt fly.

gringojj

I am trying to think about examples of animals that would be bad for the intelligent design theory. I like to use the ostrich because it has wings but doesnt fly. Any more?

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Problems in paradise

by gringojj in

i know there are a ton of problems with the idea of paradise.

i was just thinking about how much sense it doesnt make.

for example how is it supposed to work as far as housing arrangements?

gringojj

Just wait on jehovah