daniel-p I agree with you totally but many people here are held captive to the bible and will die for what it says. They are misguided by their parents, Religious leaders, and others that they look to and they became brainwashed by them. I am trying to help others on this board see what is truely happening to them. There might be a women reading today that is being oppressed by the men in her life and think she has to Indure because she believes GOD tells her to. We need too escape this type of thinking. I hope this thread will make some men and women think and maybe it might be a small part of making thier life better.
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31Women be silent!!
by skyman ini have been looking into the research art d. ehrman from the department of religious studies from the university of north carolina.
he makes a very convincing argument that to me proves the bible verses that make women less human was not in the originals.. paul called women by name some of the women were taking the lead at romans 16: 3-16 in verse 3 say fellow worker prisca (woman).
then verse 7 junias (woman) this is interesting some bibles including the new world translation then says who are men or kinsmen this is not found at all in the older manuscripts so the new world translation and any other translation is in error.
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Women be silent!!
by skyman ini have been looking into the research art d. ehrman from the department of religious studies from the university of north carolina.
he makes a very convincing argument that to me proves the bible verses that make women less human was not in the originals.. paul called women by name some of the women were taking the lead at romans 16: 3-16 in verse 3 say fellow worker prisca (woman).
then verse 7 junias (woman) this is interesting some bibles including the new world translation then says who are men or kinsmen this is not found at all in the older manuscripts so the new world translation and any other translation is in error.
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P.S. I changed my avitar before I posted this thread anyone hate it? I hope not, I like the new pumkin adds personality I think.
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Women be silent!!
by skyman ini have been looking into the research art d. ehrman from the department of religious studies from the university of north carolina.
he makes a very convincing argument that to me proves the bible verses that make women less human was not in the originals.. paul called women by name some of the women were taking the lead at romans 16: 3-16 in verse 3 say fellow worker prisca (woman).
then verse 7 junias (woman) this is interesting some bibles including the new world translation then says who are men or kinsmen this is not found at all in the older manuscripts so the new world translation and any other translation is in error.
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I am convinced the words "KINSMEN and or MEN" were added because older manuscripts did not have the words. Later scribes did this so the women would not cause problems and question things. It was easier to add "Kinsmen or men" than to explain the verse.
What proof is there that 1 Cor. 14: 34, 25 are not original. Remove the the two verses of 1Cor. 14: 34, 35 you will notice the passage flows seamlessly without the two verses. Adding more proof some older manuscripts do not put the two verses in the modern location of the bible but shuffle the verses into other locations. Sense the verses did not belong in the originals manuscripts the scribes were trying to find a good location too support their rendering of the text. One rule of thumb if it was original then the text always appears in the same location in all the older Manuscripts by shuffling the two verses around is almost positive proof they were not in the original text. This line of thinking is good enough for other mistakes in translation of the bible. The the same logic should apply here. Last but not least the two verses contradict Paul's writings even within the letter of 1 Cor. this adds even more support that the verses were added.
The evidence is very strong.
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Women be silent!!
by skyman ini have been looking into the research art d. ehrman from the department of religious studies from the university of north carolina.
he makes a very convincing argument that to me proves the bible verses that make women less human was not in the originals.. paul called women by name some of the women were taking the lead at romans 16: 3-16 in verse 3 say fellow worker prisca (woman).
then verse 7 junias (woman) this is interesting some bibles including the new world translation then says who are men or kinsmen this is not found at all in the older manuscripts so the new world translation and any other translation is in error.
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Leolia I have read your thread and I like your research, But this is a deliberate changing of the bible that really is incredible to me. As I have posted before I believe we have a bible that is full of problems, this is only one example of how people should be careful not to place all their money on the bible as being the original WORD of GOD. If anyone has a dominating husband that demands respect because of the WORD of GOD says she has too. Men rape women, beat women, dominate women, the congregtions have many capable women that could take to lead, maybe even be part of the Governing BODY. If the JW';s did this it would be revolutionary and we see the problems quickly disappear that we see inside the congregations.
A Word of GOD that he never spoke how disgusting.
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Women be silent!!
by skyman ini have been looking into the research art d. ehrman from the department of religious studies from the university of north carolina.
he makes a very convincing argument that to me proves the bible verses that make women less human was not in the originals.. paul called women by name some of the women were taking the lead at romans 16: 3-16 in verse 3 say fellow worker prisca (woman).
then verse 7 junias (woman) this is interesting some bibles including the new world translation then says who are men or kinsmen this is not found at all in the older manuscripts so the new world translation and any other translation is in error.
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Notice in most bible at Romans 16: 7 the printers of the most of the bibles had to add men or kinsmen. Professor Ehrman states is clear proof that the bible has been corrupted by men that had the ability to change text and lead the reader to a concussion of their choosing This is not the only agenda bible scribes have put into the scriptures but this agenda has been responsible for many deaths and making the lives of women down to this day secondary and slaves for men. Other agendas I will post in future threads
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Gays and Angels
by truthseeker in.
what's the historical background of angels and angel wings in gay culture?.
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When I got out of bed I had no idea I would learn something. A REALY BIG THANKS FOR THE THREAD.
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New Video of DF announcement at door
by inbyathread instarting a new thread so that everyone can find the link.. this is the video of the elders trying to act smart stupid.
http://www.savefile.com/files2.php?fid=5509435.
they will keep the file as long as it is downloaded once every 14 days.. enjoy
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YOu are a very calm person.
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Women be silent!!
by skyman ini have been looking into the research art d. ehrman from the department of religious studies from the university of north carolina.
he makes a very convincing argument that to me proves the bible verses that make women less human was not in the originals.. paul called women by name some of the women were taking the lead at romans 16: 3-16 in verse 3 say fellow worker prisca (woman).
then verse 7 junias (woman) this is interesting some bibles including the new world translation then says who are men or kinsmen this is not found at all in the older manuscripts so the new world translation and any other translation is in error.
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I have been looking into the research Art D. Ehrman from the Department of Religious Studies from the University of North Carolina. He makes a very convincing argument that to me proves the bible verses that make women less human was not in the originals.
Paul called women by name some of the Women were taking the lead at Romans 16: 3-16 in verse 3 say fellow worker Prisca (WOMAN). Then verse 7 Junias (Woman) this is interesting some bibles including the New World Translation then says “who are men” or “Kinsmen” This is not found at all in the older Manuscripts so the New World Translation and any other translation is in error. At that time Junias was strictly a woman’s name and notice the verse said Junias was an Apostle. Actually older Manuscripts say foremost Apostle
. That would be liken to at least an Elder or a C.O. today.
What about 1Cor. 11:2-16 Paul say a Woman can teach with a head covering but at 1 Cor 14: 36-40 says the opposite that she has to be silent, never teaching. The verse found at 1Cor 14: 36-40 was not Paul’s words but was added by a scribe to give credence to the MALE dominated Society and give the Roman Church the right to take power from the woman and dominate her.
There so much proof that women shortly after Christ not only taught but where the foremost teachers in most cases. By the large part men did not except Jesus at first but the Women did, they flocked to the new teaching by the groves. Think about it, dominated for thousands of years by men then this charismatic leader removes all that away. It must have been great for the women finally be valued.
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What Went Thru Your Mind While Sitting at The Meetings?
by minimus ini used to listen but not really.
i'd look at the platform/speaker stand, look like i was paying attention, get antsy, and find another elder to "discuss" something ith.
i just got to the meeting----right before it was to start and if the talkative po decided that his last part was going to go overtime, i'd put on my coat and look at the big clock on my way out in front of everyone and leave for the local bar.
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There was times I would get up and walk to the back if a brother went over to long I always set in the front to set a good example. Everyone know what I was going to do. I would point at the clock in the back of the hall so the speaker would get get the point and end the meeting.
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What Went Thru Your Mind While Sitting at The Meetings?
by minimus ini used to listen but not really.
i'd look at the platform/speaker stand, look like i was paying attention, get antsy, and find another elder to "discuss" something ith.
i just got to the meeting----right before it was to start and if the talkative po decided that his last part was going to go overtime, i'd put on my coat and look at the big clock on my way out in front of everyone and leave for the local bar.
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This was the greatest of all torches for me. I would go inside out when ever someone would answer with the BORG mentality, you know judgemental and over and beyond what the paragraph actually said. The P.O. was really hated amongst almost everyone in the hall my wife she would get up and join the company of other Elders wife's fleeing into the bathroom while the P.O. Gave his talks.