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  The status of women in early Christianity

  by Leolaia in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  the watchtower society maintains a very strict gender dichotomy in its organization.

  this is news to no one.

  although men -- in many cases, unqualified men -- are expected to reach for advancement within local congregations (e.g.

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  luna2

  I read it, Leolaia! It's facinating stuff. I know I need to go over it again (may print it out) as it is hard for my poor brain to absorb all at once.
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  YAY...lookie at what I can do!!!

  by devinsmom in

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  i have been making jewelry for as long as i can remember.

  for a few years i earned a living making jewelry and traveling to art shows to sell it, i even had one of those liitle carts in the mall when i was 17...ran it by myself.

  i stopped making stuff for a while but i have recently restarted my business and it is taking off!

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  luna2

  Very pretty stuff! Nice work.
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  "We Are NEVER on Vacation from Jehovah"

  by Funchback in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  remember these words?

  : "we are never on vacation from jehovah"

  often, this very "reminder" was in the kingdom ministry.

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  luna2

  The dreadful elder I used to work for many years ago and his wife put together "fun" vacation trips...cruises mostly... for groups from their congregation. From what my friend (who joined this happy crew once) said, it wasn't too bad. She certainly got a kick out of seeing how much duty-free booze this elder and his wife could fit in their suitcases to take home.

  I'm pretty sure I'd rather have a root canal than be stuck on a ship with a bunch of dubs, especially if the group included Elder Pompous Dumbass.
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  "We Are NEVER on Vacation from Jehovah"

  by Funchback in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  remember these words?

  : "we are never on vacation from jehovah"

  often, this very "reminder" was in the kingdom ministry.

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  luna2

  During the time when I was a good dub, I think I took one little trip. Generally couldn't afford vacations. Had to save up just to stay in a hotel and eat out for Circuit and District Assemblies. On that one overnight trip with the boys, we did not try to find a local hall to attend. I was way, way too shy for that. LOL
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  JW terminology really gets my goat

  by Ellie in

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  i don't know if its just me or if anyone else feels the same but it really annoys me when jehovahs witnesses use their terminology when speaking to a non jw.. for example, a jw woman is talking to a collegue who has never had a bible study and knows nothing about jws.. instead of saying "i have a friend coming for tea tonight" the woman says " one of the sisters is coming for tea tonight".. or, instead of "i was talking to a friend on the phone last night" she says "i was talking to an elder on the phone last night".. it just really winds me up, i think they do it to seem important and mysterious but it only leaves the other person confused.

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  "approved associate" - to make you feel like you were an unpaid but highly valuable Walmart worker.

  Perfect! LMAO!
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  What instruments are in your attic?

  by LittleToe in

  1. social
  2. entertainment

  having just had a conversation about musical instruments, i came to the conclusion that 90% of them end up in disuse, maybe even in the attic.

  what do you have stored away?.

  i have a chanter (the musical part of the bagpipes), recorder, two violins and a penny whistle, hiding somewhere.

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  luna2

  Nothing now, but before we moved from Illinois, we had a mandoline, a banjo, and a guitar in the basement. My parents and dumped them off on us and they weren't in good condition at all.

  Unfortunately, I never learned to play, so I wasn't motivated to get them fixed up. We ended up selling them in a yard sale.
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  thinking of having a bible study

  by Ellie in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  what do you think would happen if someone where to have a bible study with the sole purpose of asking lots of awkward questions just to get the reaction of the witnesses?

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  luna2

  The sister who studied with me was the kind of person who sincerely worked to answer my questions. Our study would start with reading one paragraph in the LF book and then I'd be off...questions all over the place. If we got two paragraphs done in an hour or hour and a half it was a good day. I loved her. It's too bad I was so abysmally ignorant and so ready to leap into fairyland blindfolded.

  Its possible that if I had known what I know now and tried this technique with her that she might have come to a real "accurate knowledge" of the organization she'd given her life to. But I think she was a special and unusual witness.

  My friend was studying with the PO and his wife at the same time. Some of the stories she tells of their petty punishments (not showing up for her study when she missed a meeting) and their inability to answer questions ...telling her to study on her own and pray...well, they were a true representation of all that is wrong with the WTS. Neither of them were very smart and Brother PO was both judgmental and somewhat arrogant. People like that would most likely decide that the study wasn't progressing if presented with difficult questions and quickly end it.

  It really depends on who you are studying with as to how much they will work with you.
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  Theocratic coloring book for children

  by unbeliever in

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  http://members.tripod.com/~charb46/

  would you want your children coloring some of these pictures?

  if you want to see a larger version go to the website above and click on the pictures.

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  luna2

  Nice...not much effort made to use pictures truly appropriate for kids.

  "Hey, Mommy, I want to color the elder!" or "Can I do the murder picture?" (stoning of Stephen). "Look, Daddy, I did the sick, dying, old man...what's his name? Job?"

  I especially like No.79 (Ezra)...there's nothing to color except his face. No.32, Adam and Eve, is cool too. They look like country singers. LOL
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  JWs not shunning you after you left the org?

  by greendawn in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  after you got disfellowshipped or disassociated yourself were there any jws relatives or not that refused to accept the shunning policy and at least secretly (or perhaps openly) kept up contact with you?

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  luna2

  I had a friend who didn't follow disfellowshipping rules with her daughter...she'd go on cruises with her and things...but she was very, very careful who knew. Guess I either seemed less judgmental because I was hardly an uber-witness or she could tell I wasn't into tattling to the elders.

  It seemed like every time I had dealings someone who'd been DF'd in public, it was in regards to business, so I could hardly not talk to them. I hated having to ignore people at the KH. I figured I was just weak, weak, weak.
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  Sentimental Mood

  by MerryMagdalene in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i've been thinking back to my j-dub childhood with a sort of sad fondness.... my great-grandfather was the first witness in the valley where he lived and ranched.

  he became one after listening to rutherford's radio programs.

  i have no idea why and am a bit curious.

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  luna2

  I sometimes, even now, look back with amost fondness to the five years I lived in IL as a JW. My boys were young, my dysfunctional marriage was over (such a relief), and being a JW provided structure and support that I took comfort in as a single parent. In our cong. there were quite a few other single sisters, many of whom also had kids, to socialize with. There were many get togethers, picnics and potluck suppers with the whole congregation or with just us single sisters and our kids. There seemed to be something social going on all the time, even if it was just a few of us going to a movie and out to McDonald's. We even started going out to dinner in a big group after the Memorial.

  Circuit Assemblies in Janesville, WI were like a mini vacation (almost). We'd all stay up at the Ramada Inn where there was a nice room, pizza and swimming to look forward to after each session. (District Assemblies in Cicero, IL were less fun. Three to four days of getting up in the wee hours of the morning to drive two hours to a race track to spend an almost endless day on uncomfortable chairs with 10,000 other people was never something I looked forward to.)

  I guess for that relatively brief period, in that time and place, everything meshed pretty well...at least enough so, that we were mostly happy and willing to ignore the occassional jangling inconsistancies in either the other "friends'" behaviors or what we were being asked to accept as truth from the FDS.

  Once we moved, the fantasy rapidly disintegrated. It's almost too bad that it worked so well for us back there in the beginning. I might have woken up sooner.