Posts by AndersonsInfo

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Watchtower Attorneys Hayden Covington and Charles Smith

by Scott77 in

does anyone know some bios on those two guys?

are they nice, bad or just ordinary guys in the higher ups of the watchtower hierachy?

please, post some photos of them if available.. .

AndersonsInfo

Read a copy of Covington's employment resume written after he left Bethel and his death certificate at:

http://www.watchtowerdocuments.com/documents/1977-78_Hayden_Covingtons_Resume_and_Death_Certificate.pdf

When I was in Bethel, I received a copy of Covington's resume and death certificate from a JW in California by the name of Jeannie Sears. She had been Covington's friend and secretary of sorts for a few years before he died and I think they both lived in the same apartment complex. Jean's deceased husband had been a former Bethelite who had been Covington's friend when they both were in Bethel in the 1950s and it's through him that Jeannie met Hayden.

Interestingly, Covington wrote his memoir shortly before he died and shared it with Jeannie. She told me she was horrified when she read what he said about the organization and talked him out of publishing it. Later she watched him burn it in the yard. Jeannie never told me what was in that memoir and probably has died taking Covington's secrets with her to the grave.

Barbara

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Interstate Billboards - $750 a month

by skeeter1 in

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friends

i found an interstate billboard for $750 a month, minimum of 1 month.

there is an additonal charge of $750 for the art.

the billboard is on i-75, near hahira, georgia (just north of valdosta...and the florida line).

AndersonsInfo

Count us in. We could contribute $50. a month for a few months.

Barb and Joe

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1984 WT cover, 1914 Gen That Will Not Pass -- How many of 16 alive today?

by FatFreek 2005 in

those people on that cover were supposed to represent a group of people that would still live on into the new order.

in your best guess, how old were most of those 16 people at the time the photo was taken, and how many do you suppose are still alive today?.

remember, that wt was printed in 1984, nearly 27 years ago.

AndersonsInfo

I knew Ann Rose, a lovely woman if there ever was one. Ann told me how fortunate I was to have a child, a joy she said she never experienced because of waiting for the new world and putting the Kingdom work first in her life. She thought I had it all, being a mother and also being at Bethel.

Some think that it is sad that Ann gave her life to a publishing company as her husband, Ray, also did. No matter! They were happy to be in Bethel, although Ray complained about this or that continually, and Rose hushed him up continually. However, they were treated well, especially in their last years on this earth when everything was provided for and they were free of worrying about “What will happen to me?” something that most ordinary souls in old age are concerned about.

It was my understanding that neither Ann nor Ray thought they were of the "heavenly class." That means they died with the hope of future life on a paradise earth. It was many years later after Ann appeared on the 1984 Watchtower cover that she died. Perhaps before her death she might have wondered about the promise given by the Watch Tower that her generation would not pass away until... Who knows! One thing we do know for sure is that Ann and Ray are gone, lives that were but a blip in time. They had good lives even though what they hoped for wasn't true, e.g., "1914, The Generation That Will Not Pass Away."

Ann as well as the other people on that 1984 Watchtower cover were sincere and likeable people.

No one casts aspersions on them or rejoices in their deaths. It's the lie that we take issue with, not the people on the cover of that 1984 magazine who were taken in by the lie. If Ann hadn't bought the whole package of lies hook, line, and sinker, she probably would have had children. Of course, nobody made her believe Watch Tower teachings, and neither did anyone make me believe. However, if Watch Tower did not exist, it would not have sent preachers out to catch the unwary, people like me who had a need to believe in a fantastic message which I know now was and continues to be pure speculation and guesswork. How do I know? Because Watch Tower’s frequent end-time calculations haven’t panned out. That alone demonstrates their forecasts are not incontestable.

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1984 WT cover, 1914 Gen That Will Not Pass -- How many of 16 alive today?

by FatFreek 2005 in

those people on that cover were supposed to represent a group of people that would still live on into the new order.

in your best guess, how old were most of those 16 people at the time the photo was taken, and how many do you suppose are still alive today?.

remember, that wt was printed in 1984, nearly 27 years ago.

AndersonsInfo

Top left: woman-Steiman or maybe spelled Steeman, but I doubt it. However, that's the way the name was pronounced-- Bethel chiropractor's wife. They came in for just a few years and then went back to Tampa.

Second row from the back: First man on the right side or fourth from the left: Arthur Worsley

Third row from the back or the middle row: second from left - man - Steiman. He was the chiropractor. Heard that he was later dfd (not for apostasy).

Second row from the front: first man on left: Hatzfeld, Robert H.

As far as I know, all are deceased.

There are two others in the picture who are unidentified. Although we saw them in and around Bethel, we can't remember their names.

Joe and Barbara

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The Wealth of the Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society In The UK !!

by Hairyhegoat in

just found these figures for the uk circut assembly halls and my jaw dropped when i saw how much money they all have in the bank!!.

here are some stats from the uk, well start off with some of the uk assembly halls.. .

the surrey assembly hall of jehovahs witnesses is sitting with just under a cool 4 million in the bank.

AndersonsInfo

http://www.freeminds.org/organization/business/2009-financial-report-for-watch-tower-bible-and-tract-society-of-britain-and-for-ibsa.html

Here's the 2009 financial report for WT of Britain with some informative comments by three insiders.

Barb

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No More Life Story

by Farkel in

for reasons i've stated in the window washers thread, i will not write and post any more about my life as a jw.. thank you, "yesidid.

" you're a real gem.. farkel.

AndersonsInfo

I usually don't offer my opinions on argumentative issues that arise on this board because I post in my own name and I don't want readers to really see how dumb I am!

However, today is different because one of my friends has been insulted by the disapproving opinions of a few, and, now we the majority, are going to lose out because Farkel refuses to continue to tell his life story and open himself up to further attack. Thus, we won't read Farkel’s account of his disappointment after disappointment because of not being hired by any important high-tech industrial corporations, even though he was immensely qualified, because of following WT orders in regards to the draft. Extremely interesting story that I don’t want to give away just in case Farkel reconsiders!

We also will miss out reading about what could have been Farkel’s successful career in music – He’s a brilliant concert pianist.

Farkel is no ordinary person, but a very gifted human being. He has extraordinary talent but his life was negatively influenced by a sham of a religion that his parent forced upon him.

To you naysayers: Don't you dare blame Farkel for allowing the religion to influence him claiming he could have chosen another way to live his life. He did what all of us did who are of his generation of Witnesses. We did what we were told because we were exposed daily to a life or death message. We didn't have the Internet to expose the fallacies of WT. As young people, we didn’t have life-experiences or education to gauge the religion by. Media expose’ was minimal. WT’s successes in the Supreme Court were legendary and impressive so we didn’t doubt.

Farkel’s story, as well as the stories of other JWs of his generation should be told in order for the young to not repeat taking the detrimental path we took because we were sincerely faithful to what we thought was a religion led by God.

I can’t say I blame Farkel for backing off in that I’ve been attacked too, but mostly by JWs, although it has been disconcerting to be attacked by some former Witnesses too. I press on mainly because I want to help others not fall prey to Watch Tower lies or to help those who are mixed-up and confused because of being a WT cult member. This was Farkel’s motive too.

Well, at this point, it doesn’t look like our plea to Farkel to continue with his story is changing his mind although I hope I’m wrong. I just know that I’m sorry that his good intentions have been misconstrued by some which has resulted in our loss.

Barbara

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No More Life Story

by Farkel in

for reasons i've stated in the window washers thread, i will not write and post any more about my life as a jw.. thank you, "yesidid.

" you're a real gem.. farkel.

AndersonsInfo

If you won't continue to post your story here, I'll post it on my new website which will then make it one of the most popular XJW websites around. Randy wants your story too so I guess he and I will have to fight over who gets to have it (and he probably will win). Come on Farkel, continue on with your story. Can't you see from the posts on this thread, your opinions and insight are much in demand? We want Farkel's story. We want Farkel's story!

Barb

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Barbara Anderson's fancy new website

by Dogpatch in

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friends

check it out!.

very nice look and feel, though not all the downloads are linked properly yet.. http://watchtowerdocuments.com.

randy.

AndersonsInfo

Thanks so much for the support of my new website. Today the problems with broken links to documents were fixed and as far as I've been able to ascertain, all links are working. Hope so, anyway. Let me know if you see a problem.

Next week some new pages will be created that will feature more excellent stories submitted by former JWs. Also, I hope to add another twelve or more old documents for research purposes.

If you want your story on my website, just PM me.

Barbara

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Barbara Anderson's fancy new website

by Dogpatch in

jw
friends

check it out!.

very nice look and feel, though not all the downloads are linked properly yet.. http://watchtowerdocuments.com.

randy.

AndersonsInfo

Thanks for the kind words. Building this website was a huge undertaking for a wonderfully kind and generous former JW, "Moxie," someone many of you know of. Lots of kudos for "Moxie" everyone!

Now we're in the process of locating misspells or links that don't work. Thanks Leo for noticing a misspell. Anyone else catching a mistake, please let me know here.

FYI, we will be adding many more important documents in the future and also more absorbing personal experiences.

Thought you'll like to know that some of the larger documents take a few minutes to load so be patient as they are worth the wait.

Happy researching!

Barbara

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Latest research findings: The more believers doubt their own beliefs, the more they proselytize in favor of them .

by AndersonsInfo in

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on december 10, 2010, appearing in our local newspaper was an article titled, social science palooza, written by columnist, david brooks.

"every day, hundreds of thousands of scholars study human behavior.

every day, a few of their studies are bundled and distributed via e-mail by kevin lewis, who covers the social sciences for the boston globe and national affairs.

AndersonsInfo

On December 10, 2010, appearing in our local newspaper was an article titled, Social Science Palooza, written by columnist, David Brooks. He said:

"Every day, hundreds of thousands of scholars study human behavior. Every day, a few of their studies are bundled and distributed via e-mail by Kevin Lewis, who covers the social sciences for The Boston Globe and National Affairs. And every day, I file away these studies because I find them bizarrely interesting.

"In this column, I'm going to try to summarize as many of these studies as space allows. No single study is dispositive, but I hope these summaries can spark some conversations."

I'm only going to quote one study found in Mr. Brooks column, the results I found fascinating which indeed should spark conversation on this discussion board.

"Classic research has suggested that the more people doubt their own beliefs the more, paradoxically, they are inclined to proselytize in favor of them. David Gal and Derek Rucker published a study in Psychological Science in which they presented some research subjects with evidence that undermined their core convictions. The subjects who were forced to confront the counterevidence went on to more forcefully advocate their original beliefs, thus confirming the earlier findings."

In light of this study, do you think the Witnesses who are the most vigorous in defending their religion, really doubt their beliefs?