Posts by carla

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Time Indefinite

by StephaneLaliberte in

from a very young age, i was always annoyed by this translation time indefinite simply means: time that has not been defined.

where the new world translation uses "time indefinite", other translations use "everlasting" and "eternal".

honestly, it makes much more sense to me "everlasting" and "eternal" as "time indefinite" would leave room for god to define that time later on.

carla

Probably because they would have difficulties with- (just a few)

John 6:68 Simon Peter answered him, "Lord, to whom shall we go? You have the words of eternal life.

John 10:28-30 I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish; no one will snatch them out of my hand. My Father, who has given them to me, is greater than all; no one can snatch them out of my Father’s hand. I and the Father are one.

1 John 5:13 I write these things to you who believe in the name of the Son of God, that you may know that you have eternal life.

Many scriptures regarding eternal life refer to Jesus and the wt doesn't have much use for Him, in my opinion.

Also just because they like to be different. Time is construct for man not God.

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Party tunes

by jhine in

as usual there's a lot of serious shizzle being discussed on here .

i can only cope with so much serious , so here's something that's really not .

as some of you know l am getting married soon and organising the evening bash .

carla

Everyone usually gets out on to the dance floor to Bob Seger's 'Old Time Rock & Roll

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If not the WT/JW relgion where else are 'we' to go? Why not atheistic/scientific philosophical naturalism?

by Disillusioned JW in

sometimes jws wonder if the wt/jw is not the truth, 'then where else are we to go?

' i say 'why not atheistic/scientific philosophical naturalism and why not a secular philosophy which teaches a way of life?

' what do you folks say?.

carla

The comment, "you are still at it" was meant that you were still going door to door so to speak trying to convince people of your belief system, whatever that may be at the moment. Yes, I am well aware that jw's believe in a god and then they also have their bigger god jehovah. But in their minds they still only have one. I guess math isn't their strong point.

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If not the WT/JW relgion where else are 'we' to go? Why not atheistic/scientific philosophical naturalism?

by Disillusioned JW in

sometimes jws wonder if the wt/jw is not the truth, 'then where else are we to go?

' i say 'why not atheistic/scientific philosophical naturalism and why not a secular philosophy which teaches a way of life?

' what do you folks say?.

carla

Dear Disilllusion,

I read your response and appreciate what you said in all seriousness. Then I reread it and had to laugh a bit, you were at one time a jw? if so, then you in all likelihood went door to door trying to convince people that the jw's were in fact the one true religion, blah, blah, blah...... don't you see? you are still at it, trying to convince people there is no god. Why do you care if one believes or not? I mean no offense at all, I am truly curious as to why you feel the need to change peoples minds about anything?

I do wish you well on your journey. Who knows? you may one day move on from humanism to something else, good to keep an open mind.

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God vs ET`s ,why is one more probable than the other ?

by smiddy3 in

jw
friends

billions of people around the world beleive in a god of some sort or other who exerts some power or influence to some degree or other in lifes affairs .. i don`t think there would be anywhere near that figure that would entertain the possability of extra terrestial life elsewhere in the universe.. and i find that curious .. the ancients didn`t know that their were other humans on other continents on this planet until they ventured out and found them .. we live somewhere in the milky way galaxy with millions of suns and planets that orbit them.. our galaxy is only one of trillions if not zillions of galaxys in the known universe.. look at the diversity of life on just this one planet earth ,what possabilitys could exist elsewhere ?

on alien worastronomers can use the hubble space telescope to view galaxies near the edge of the observable universe (the region of space from which light has had a chance to reach us within the last 13.77 billion years).

by examining a very tiny portion of the sky, counting up the number of visible galaxies in the universe in that specific region, and then multiplying that number to account for all the regions of the sky, astronomers estimate the number of galaxies in the universe.

carla

If you believe in God, why wouldn't God make life on other planets and galaxies? (it is estimated that there are hundreds of billions of galaxies)

If you are an atheist, why wouldn't life form elsewhere as it did here on Earth?

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Where there any cases where members should not have been at the meeting but still managed to attend?

by RULES & REGULATIONS in

no matter if you are tired, sick, worked late, trudging through heavy snow, or any other reason, you were never to miss the meetings.

missing meetings is frowned upon.. i once went to a 2 day assembly with 2 wisdom teeth pulled the day before.

my gums were still bleeding.

carla

It is odd that when I have repeated stories such as these my jw does not believe them and says you apostates are just lying to make the org look bad. Seems to me the org doesn't need help in that department.

When I tell non jw's these sorts of stories they think I am exaggerating.

Hmm, you have stories that are so bad that jw's and non jw's can't even believe them, think it's a cult?

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If not the WT/JW relgion where else are 'we' to go? Why not atheistic/scientific philosophical naturalism?

by Disillusioned JW in

sometimes jws wonder if the wt/jw is not the truth, 'then where else are we to go?

' i say 'why not atheistic/scientific philosophical naturalism and why not a secular philosophy which teaches a way of life?

' what do you folks say?.

carla

I never understood the jw "where else would we go" argument. If they are truly Bible believers they would look to the Bible itself and see John 6:68-Simon Peter answered him, "Lord, to whom shall we go? You have the words of eternal life." They would see the question is "to whom" not "to where". The "whom" is Jesus but they probably changed that in their version I suppose. Of course one would have to be a believer to use the John 6 scripture.

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Praying for others?

by pixel in

i’m looking for an article, from the watchtower, where it says that we should not pray for other members from the stage.

does anyone remember an article saying this?.

carla

What on earth would the reasoning be for not praying for somebody? What do jw's do with the following scriptures?

Matthew 5:44 But I tell you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you,

Proverbs 25:21
If your enemy is hungry, give him food to eat, and if he is thirsty, give him water to drink.

Luke 6:27
But to those of you who will listen, I say: Love your enemies, do good to those who hate you,

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Very Droll this !

by Phizzy in

a hindu, a rabbi, and a jehovah's witness are lost.

they wander across a farmstead and ask to spend the night.. "i only have room for two, so one of you will have to stay in the barn," says the farm owner.. the hindu immediately volunteers, insisting it's no problem.

however, a few minutes later, he knocks on the front door.. "i'm sorry, but there is a cow in the barn, and they are sacred to me.".

carla

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Has someone messaged me ?

by jhine in

jw
friends

hi folks .

i haven't been on for a while and looked in today to see a notification that l had a pm .

however l can't see anything newer than a couple of months ago , which l had already opened .

carla

Congratulations! Wishing you both all the best!