Here is an article on him-
https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2007/aug/24/ukcrime.stevenmorris
i remember reading about this guy in a national newspaper in 2010 after he had had his trial for child sex abuse.
porter avoided prison, despite being guilty of some acts child abuse.. the local elders defended him and were on his side and didn't df him, from what i remember.
then after an outcry porter was was df'd, and i think sent to prison.. anyone up-to-date on this?.
Here is an article on him-
https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2007/aug/24/ukcrime.stevenmorris
i'm not sure if anyone remembers me since i do not post here much anymore.
i sometimes pop in around christmas time to see if anyone is interested in exchanging christmas cards like we used to back when i first posted on this site.
speaking of which, the holiday season will soon be upon us.. if you recall, i was married to a jehovah's witness and i had a daughter i spoke of a lot.
Hey Gary! Sorry things didn't work out with your wife.
I am a ubm (never jw) and I also loved the Christmas cards. Why anyone would think that a simple act of kindness is a bad thing is beyond me.
My kids have grown up, married and kids of their own and luckily no jw's in the bunch. They have become Christians with churches of their choosing and all are happy. We still have a chuckle about dad being jw and how he tries to juggle holidays so he can be there for grandchildren. We shall see how it continues as the kids grow.
I wish all the best going forward even if it will be a bit scary as change often is. You have been through a lot, hope you give yourself permission to move forward and keep the love of your family in your life.
so my mother passed on 20 aug 23 from the big c. i was there when she went.
that was indeed very traumatic.
i won't go to describe it.. dad went 17 years ago so there's just me now.
I'm so sorry punk, glad your kids were there to help. Wishing you all peace.
i once gave this book to a woman with kids at the door...to my shock my next visit she gave it back saying it was discusting and full of violence and sex!
this book was clearly written by some bethel loser with no kids.
i don't understand why witnesses don't have a separate kids school..
As a non jw who went to Sunday school I can assure you that mainstream churches do NOT have children reading about masturbation, death and violence. Our Bible stories were simple and age appropriate. If you are of a certain age perhaps you remember Golden Books? they were simple cute books for children, they put out a number of children's bible stories. We also often did singing and a craft or coloring in Sunday school. In mainstream churches they do not discuss sex, masturbation, oral, anal and whatever else the perverts like to discuss with children and in mixed company (once upon a time such topics were not discussed in front of men & women together).
I can't even imagine sitting in church with my Dad or Grandparents when such topics would be brought up! It is just one of the many reasons I never allowed my kids anywhere near a kh. Told my jw that if anyone ever tried to have a discussion like what jw's do in their 'service' I would beat the shit out of the speaker.
Before I get roasted for that, when discussing the above topic with other non jw's they all agree they would do the same. I don't know, are jw's just a bunch of perverts or what?
an article on rnz, a news site in new zealand.. https://www.rnz.co.nz/programmes/in-depth-special-projects/story/2018901718/something-evil.
nevermind, it's working now, thanks.
an article on rnz, a news site in new zealand.. https://www.rnz.co.nz/programmes/in-depth-special-projects/story/2018901718/something-evil.
link isn't working, got another?
i was wondering about the jw attitude towards getting tattoos.. redditors suggest that the only jws who have them would have got them before they were baptised.. jw.org gives a meally-mouthed "true christians wouldn't" response.. but no-one (that i've seen so far) answers the question i'm actually asking: is getting a tattoo after being baptised a disfellowshipping offence?.
if not disfellowshipable, how would a typical jw congregation treat someone who got a tattoo after baptism?
would they really treat it like it is a conscience issue?.
"Oh I've never been called riff raff before " - better than in the U.S., tatts on women used to be called tramp stamps.
i was wondering about the jw attitude towards getting tattoos.. redditors suggest that the only jws who have them would have got them before they were baptised.. jw.org gives a meally-mouthed "true christians wouldn't" response.. but no-one (that i've seen so far) answers the question i'm actually asking: is getting a tattoo after being baptised a disfellowshipping offence?.
if not disfellowshipable, how would a typical jw congregation treat someone who got a tattoo after baptism?
would they really treat it like it is a conscience issue?.
sorry careful, bit testy today. as you know it is convention season so it makes life hard on ubm's.
thanks for the best wishes
i was wondering about the jw attitude towards getting tattoos.. redditors suggest that the only jws who have them would have got them before they were baptised.. jw.org gives a meally-mouthed "true christians wouldn't" response.. but no-one (that i've seen so far) answers the question i'm actually asking: is getting a tattoo after being baptised a disfellowshipping offence?.
if not disfellowshipable, how would a typical jw congregation treat someone who got a tattoo after baptism?
would they really treat it like it is a conscience issue?.
"Carla, did you accidentally leave out a noun after "My jw" - No I didn't. He is capable of being my husband like his old authentic self at times and then he is my dear husband, when he acts like a cult member and is in full on jw mode he is 'my jw' because it is not himself. His old non jw self would never behave or believe in half the crap the borg spouts. It is treated like a mental illness now with family members, that is how most people see his 'dubbyness' when he gets like that. Act like a judgmental ass and people might think you are few short in the crayon box. Yes, we will roll our eyes behind your back. He is still both my husband and my jw, I prefer my husband.
Sadly the kids have both a dad and jw who is just trying to get his time card filled up.
He at times has almost a split personality that depends entirely on who he is with or if he is just off of certain meetings. Then I have to wait for the dubbyness to wear off.
You may find my use of 'my jw' disrespectful, you are not the first to point it out. If you were ever a jw and did not respect the sanctity of other peoples marriage and asked a spouse to lie to their 'opposing' spouse then you don't have much to say, it would be completely disrespectful to the other spouse and would make you a hypocrite. Unfortunately jw's teach people to lie and sneak around to further their purposes.
On the other hand if you are currently visiting each and every person (or other anti jw activity) you ever tried to indoctrinate or to get your time in and tell them the truth about this disgusting cult then I would commend you and you finding the use 'my jw ' disrespectful would hold more weight.
i was wondering about the jw attitude towards getting tattoos.. redditors suggest that the only jws who have them would have got them before they were baptised.. jw.org gives a meally-mouthed "true christians wouldn't" response.. but no-one (that i've seen so far) answers the question i'm actually asking: is getting a tattoo after being baptised a disfellowshipping offence?.
if not disfellowshipable, how would a typical jw congregation treat someone who got a tattoo after baptism?
would they really treat it like it is a conscience issue?.
From personal experience I can tell you that a jw will be told to get them removed or no holding the holy microphone, holy toilet brush or any other such special privileges. My jw had tatt's before joining this insidious cult and had to get them removed $!$.
"...conscience issue"- come on now, we all know what a 'conscious issue' is in dubland! Simply it goes like this- a 'real' christian wouldn't do x, y or z but you can of course. If you do, we will all treat you like shit for the rest of your life but go ahead. You will be a leper in our midst.