Posts by MidwichCuckoo

well my situation has developed a bit, any advice appreciated.. their has been a gradual building up of pressure ever since i stood down as an elder about 6 months ago.. i have been telling my wife about my doubts but have continued to attend "some" meetings.. as time has progressed i have become more open with my criticism of the org.. i mentioned the un scandal, molestation trials, false prophecy ect etc.. interestingly she does not deny these facts and yet still wants to continue as a jw.. i told her that god is not happy with people knowingly being part of a false prophet (deut 18 - etc) - starting to lay the groundwork for my exit.. she appreciates the difficult situation doubters are in - they cannot openly express their feelings for fear of jcs.. anyway, a few weeks ago we moved house which meant changing congregation.. but i felt it would be best if i did not attend meetings " at all" at the new cong so my fade could be easier.. but i could not have predicted my wifes response - when i told her it was an explosion of emotion, i mean real heartbreaker stuff.. she seems depressed at the prospect, perhaps the reality is finally hitting home.. last night, about 3a.m.

i noticed that she was not in bed.

i went downstairs and she was sobbing away to herself.. "i can't go to that hall myself!

MidwichCuckoo

Scotsman - I have seen too many people emotionally blackmailed into attending (myself included). Neither the blackmailers NOR the WT care whether or not you believe, as long as you act the part.

Nowman - yes, it is difficult on Mrs Scotsman right now, but marriage is about the needs of TWO people. Scotsman is NOT forbidding his wife attending (her need), but SHE (like all JWs) is blind to her husbands needs, and I believe if he started going, she'd be quite happy seeing him miserable as long as he 'played the part' (and she'd cry each time he tried to stop going, making his fade stressful and painful).

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3 a.m. - my wife is in tears! What do I do?

by The Scotsman in

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well my situation has developed a bit, any advice appreciated.. their has been a gradual building up of pressure ever since i stood down as an elder about 6 months ago.. i have been telling my wife about my doubts but have continued to attend "some" meetings.. as time has progressed i have become more open with my criticism of the org.. i mentioned the un scandal, molestation trials, false prophecy ect etc.. interestingly she does not deny these facts and yet still wants to continue as a jw.. i told her that god is not happy with people knowingly being part of a false prophet (deut 18 - etc) - starting to lay the groundwork for my exit.. she appreciates the difficult situation doubters are in - they cannot openly express their feelings for fear of jcs.. anyway, a few weeks ago we moved house which meant changing congregation.. but i felt it would be best if i did not attend meetings " at all" at the new cong so my fade could be easier.. but i could not have predicted my wifes response - when i told her it was an explosion of emotion, i mean real heartbreaker stuff.. she seems depressed at the prospect, perhaps the reality is finally hitting home.. last night, about 3a.m.

i noticed that she was not in bed.

i went downstairs and she was sobbing away to herself.. "i can't go to that hall myself!

MidwichCuckoo

In my opinion I don't think its a good idea to "force" her to stop attending by not helping her.

Sirona, while I agree in principal I do feel that the majority of JWs NEED some sort of emotional crutch. If she said ''I can't attend meetings because Mr Scotsman won't come with me'' then it's a joke. He isn't physically stopping her, he's made HIS choice, not hers. JWs believe that the World should make allowances for them (especially in divided families, it's ALWAYS the wishes/beliefs of the JWs that can't be offended). Does she care about Scotsman's beliefs?...nope, we all know that JWs have ZERO respect for others' beliefs...maybe if she does manage to go alone, she'll see JUST how loving they are if she hasn't a husband in tow.

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3 a.m. - my wife is in tears! What do I do?

by The Scotsman in

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friends

well my situation has developed a bit, any advice appreciated.. their has been a gradual building up of pressure ever since i stood down as an elder about 6 months ago.. i have been telling my wife about my doubts but have continued to attend "some" meetings.. as time has progressed i have become more open with my criticism of the org.. i mentioned the un scandal, molestation trials, false prophecy ect etc.. interestingly she does not deny these facts and yet still wants to continue as a jw.. i told her that god is not happy with people knowingly being part of a false prophet (deut 18 - etc) - starting to lay the groundwork for my exit.. she appreciates the difficult situation doubters are in - they cannot openly express their feelings for fear of jcs.. anyway, a few weeks ago we moved house which meant changing congregation.. but i felt it would be best if i did not attend meetings " at all" at the new cong so my fade could be easier.. but i could not have predicted my wifes response - when i told her it was an explosion of emotion, i mean real heartbreaker stuff.. she seems depressed at the prospect, perhaps the reality is finally hitting home.. last night, about 3a.m.

i noticed that she was not in bed.

i went downstairs and she was sobbing away to herself.. "i can't go to that hall myself!

MidwichCuckoo

This is going to sound harsh, but if I would 'stick my ground' and refuse to go. If she's crying because she doesn't know anyone, then tough...they're her 'brothers and sisters', the 'Happiest people on Earth' etc, etc....if she's frightened of her 'own', she's going to be in real trouble under 'persecution'. Nothing to do with 'confidence'...all she needs to do is pray to 'Jehovah' for help, YOU'RE not stopping her attending.

If you attend now, you'll see her smile and confident, THEN you won't be able to stop attending.

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Shropshire Star news editor examines issues behind death of JW Emma Gough

by AndersonsInfo in

shropshire starapril 9, 2008. why would loving faith allow death?.

features news editor neil thomas examines the issues behind the tragic death of new mum emma gough.. words written by heaven knows who and attributed to moses have brought about the apparently needless death of a young shropshire mother, and blighted many other lives, more than 3,000 years later.. far-fetched, possibly.

yet, how else are we to interpret the death of emma gough?.

MidwichCuckoo

Well written Nathan! Have you had a reply? Has anyone else emailed Mr Thomas? I emailed him yesterday, re this story, and received an email back from him this morning

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Shropshire Star news editor examines issues behind death of JW Emma Gough

by AndersonsInfo in

shropshire starapril 9, 2008. why would loving faith allow death?.

features news editor neil thomas examines the issues behind the tragic death of new mum emma gough.. words written by heaven knows who and attributed to moses have brought about the apparently needless death of a young shropshire mother, and blighted many other lives, more than 3,000 years later.. far-fetched, possibly.

yet, how else are we to interpret the death of emma gough?.

MidwichCuckoo

Just a reminder - in the wake of Emma Gough's death last October, Paul Gillies appeared on morning TV (here in UK) live defending her decision. He stated that it was solely Emma's decision, as an adult, to refuse blood...and that 'we only Baptise as adults' (and we all know THAT'S a lie - but something maybe Joe Public would believe). I wonder how old Emma Gough was when she was baptised...?

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JW DIES 'FAITHFUL TO THE BORG' INQUEST/ NEW ARTICLE

by Latte in

jehovah's witness who refused blood transfusion after giving birth died 'faithful to her god', inquest hears .

<http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=557851&in_page_id=1770> .

by andy dolan - more by this author last updated at 16:58pm on 7th april 2008 .

MidwichCuckoo

Thanks for the update Latte

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Jw's and funerals

by One true Jesus Freak in

i have a thoughtful question.

when a jw dies and there is a funeral or memorial for them, just how much of that person is 'remembered" or talked about?

do they just have a funeral service for them, or do they turn the memorial into a wt study?

MidwichCuckoo

One True...this may interest you...

http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/12/111979/1.ashx

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Jw's and funerals

by One true Jesus Freak in

i have a thoughtful question.

when a jw dies and there is a funeral or memorial for them, just how much of that person is 'remembered" or talked about?

do they just have a funeral service for them, or do they turn the memorial into a wt study?

MidwichCuckoo

As I recall, the only time the deceased is mentioned (briefly) is in relation to the WT (they knew it was the Truth, faithful etc etc)...nothing about their life outside of the Org.