i thought long and hard about posting this but the mis-information on this site finally persuaded me, i already accept many may not accept what i say on face value and get their appologist pens ready for making sure no pro-witness propaganda slips through the net on this site but here goes....... i've been on this forum for a few months my first post was about how i was thinking of returning to jw's and at my sisters recommendation to look at this site for both sides of the story before taking that step.. i faded from jw's 10/11 years ago now i left my hubby at the time divorced him to going on to have more relationships and kids, i was definately given the impression after asking on this site and with what i read that if i tried to return i might face df or at least a jc but definately a couple of elders questioning me over what i've been upto these last few years - none of these have happened.
i talked with an old jw friend (yes i do have then and she never shunned me quite happily accepted an offer of coffee from me and my asking for a chat) i told her i was interested in going back and was very frank about what i done in the last 10 years but not sure how returning was done now, she quite happily said she go ask for me to find out.. result!
she came back this week and said "all i had to do was goto meetings again" and an offer of a study was there for me if i wanted it to explore the open doubts that i had expressed i now had.. not quite the fire and brimstone welcome this site led me to believe would happen.. i will keep you posted with further updates if i feel the need to put them in future.. .
I am interested in Jw because of the bible not the wts which is like you say just a tool.
I don't understand this, but in my opinion you ought go 'back to' the JWs - and be governed by the WT - as you cannot separate the 2. You can, however, separate the Bible, and if you REALLY want to study the Bible, then the WT/JWs is the wrong place....but JWs won't 'tickle your ears' and give you all this attention, will they?
Evening Badboy ... you know, I haven't a clue what the current belief is. I did hear that 'dinosaur bones' were 'planted' on Earth to test Christians' Faith.
When I was a kid, I DO remember that the WT 'disproved' Carbon dating ... lots of talk about that!
and last night i found out that the movie "the 40 year old virgin" is a no-no.
we were watching dancing with the stars and def leppard came on as the musical guest and played "pour some sugar on me" (one of my personal favs), my mother asked if i thought my pastor would approve and i shot back what would he have to with it.
she said well because of the words in the song.
Lol...same as Open Mind, I thought you meant HERE...I was going to say 'Congrats' ...I've not seen the film '40 Year Old Virgin' (is it 'racy'?), but I thought being a virgin at 40 is something the WT would promote!
i have been fading for years now.
i give less and less a shit about what the jw's want or say or do.
i love my family and since my wife is still in although also inactive her rabid family is making the fade tough since i love and respect her dad.
Have PM'd you. Don't know how they can call this ''Apostacy'', Apostates LIE, this is THE TRUTH...running ahead of God? lololol, the irony...
i just had an epiphany of sorts.... i've been of the opinion that the change to the book study arrangement was all about control.
controlling the subject matter discussed at book studies; controlling the atmosphere of free-thinking comments or, *gasp* questioning type comments from apostate-leaning attendees.. but what if this is just the beginning of the society and the jws trying to become more mainstream?
what if they're looking to re-invent themselves into a more moderate religion, dropping meeting nights, eventually dropping meetings, maybe even dropping field service.
I posted this on JCanon's thread - I think the FS will need to be adjusted because of the BS change. I think, possibly, that's why THIS change is not being immediately enforced, as the Org needs from now until January to somehow change the FS arrangement. The reason (I gave on other thread) is that without the 'informal' atmosphere of the BS (which I'm sure most JWs are comfy with), the only 'informal' gathering left is FS meetings (in private homes), and human nature, being what it is, will overcompensate for the 'missing' socialising....hope you're following me, lol...and this would be damaging for the Org.
I think the WT is afraid of itself AND its members (locally, I know of JWs who are taking college courses in 'internet use'), not 'apostates'...it's a case of ''Divide and Conquer''
so last week when i casually mentioned the bs being cancelled, she was like, oh, no, they'd never do that.
i asked her if she would be upset with it and she said she would, it was her favorite one.
then she asked me where i got my info and i set the internet (of course!
You need advice? Lol, I think you did marvellously (is that a word?)...love the Beth Sarim thing..
It went no where. I did say that I would have a Bible study ONLY from the Bible though. No other books. She said she could get someone to do it...should I take the bait or bite more holes in my tongue????
They're really not qualified to 'study' the Bible, we all know it is only used in support of WT literature...I'd be surprised if anyone would be willing to give you a 'Bible' study...it's all about promoting the WT's Word, not God's.
weird.
after the letter was read, many clapped.
i don't know how to interpret that.. .
Wouldn't it have been fun if the 12 Apostates on the back row did a Mexican wave, lol.
the governing body, has seen fit to lovingly dump the separate book study.. on the grounds of fuel costs???.
the beth-hellites who have posted here showed how annointed brothers ripped them off for a gas contribution if they got a lift to the kingdumb hell.. gas is still a fraction of what it is in europe, but they didn't bother their sorry a$$es about how much a french or british fambly had to spend.. for decades they knew how pregnant africans waded through crocodile infested swamps - that was no reason to cancel either.. the "climax " book suggests that the clergy of christendom become concerned about world conditions because now their winecellars are threatened.. how different are the gibbering buddy - moving out of new york, not just because of fear after 9/11, but to make a disgusting profit on property bought with our money.. hb.
....of course it's about control...but if fuel prices have risen so much, and it's going to take more petrol (therefore money) to get to KH etc, then that's LESS money in the contribution box...
Tee Hee...False prophets
they only reason they have put this big change on the cost of fuel is so that they can easily come back in a year or two - just when they think this wasn't such a good idea and they're losing even more control - and say that, "well, fuel isn't as expensive now, so let's start meeting again for the book study.
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Hello Snakes ...the minimum wage here, I believe, is £5.52 per hour...which is $10.96..?
