is this the real reason that the watchtower has stopped all group studies?.
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread467527/pg1.
did they have advance warning that this was about to start happening in the usa?.
Gill - a friend of mine BOUGHT a flat (England), and, as you know, flats are leasehold - and included in the terms of the lease agreement was restricting the owner in 'religious gatherings' (from what I recall, no more than eight or ten members could attend a religious meeting at property).
Perhaps freeholders are tightening up on gatherings? I wonder what the terms of council properties are (a lot of the JWs I know tend to be 'council')?
i know i have been through all those stages, i denied it, then i got angry, definitely sad.
months and months of this, and i still am in for my family and friends.. but sometimes i just feel stupid.
why did i ignore basic common sense for so long?
The way I see it, as children we believe what we're taught by our parents. 'Worldly' kids believe in Father Christmas/Tooth Fairy etc until they reach a certain age (it's ok Ninja, just kidding - Father Christmas DOES exist!!) - but they don't feel stupid for believing, it's just (once a year) harmless fantasy. WT is dangerous fantasy, and kids born into it are subjected all year round in nearly every aspect of their lives. They're not allowed to develop normally to cope with the 'childhood lie'
...to my son leo:.
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born on the 11th of may, a healthy 7lb 8oz (3.4kg).. just thought you'd all like to know!
Many Congratulations - he's gorgeous !
i don't pay to much attention to jw stuff and so i don't know what this change was.
can anybody inform me?.
Until 1995, JWs could comfortably say that there was a limited amount of time before The End--it had to come before everyone who saw the events of 1914 died. Since 1995, that is no longer the case.
Thanks OMGhost :wave: - yes, pre 1995 God Himself promised us that the 1914 generation would not pass away etc (I read it in The Awake, so it MUST be true), so it was important to the JWs...but now it has no significance, no connection with what is happening on Earth (?)
i don't pay to much attention to jw stuff and so i don't know what this change was.
can anybody inform me?.
Cheers SirNose. I know the WT can't just sweep 1914 under the carpet, but the two JWs I'VE spoken to about it seem very vague (one just said, 'well, we 'predicted' WWI). It all seems basically meaningless (I know...it always was, lol). The way I NOW see it is that 1914 'served a purpose' and is now redundant.
i don't pay to much attention to jw stuff and so i don't know what this change was.
can anybody inform me?.
Ok - just to clarify (for me please, lol) - the way I understand it now is that 1914 is no different from any other year...?
"Bible scholars have gone through our material with a fine-tooth comb, & never, ever, found anything wrong with it yet."
These stupid statements never fail to make me smile. I think we've all heard pretty similar stuff (from JWs who have only read the WT's literature)
Pretty soon, his daughter, + the leader of the local congregation, + letters to/from head office put me way over my head.
I was learning things I didn't know existed in Scripture.
Don't worry about it - most of what the WT churns out is way above the heads of JWs too. With all the constant changes, the old folks (and probably the younger ones too) can't keep up, they just accept it as been 'too deep' for them to understand. Not much of what the JWs believe DOES exist in Scripture.
Welcome to the Board 4examp
i found this video on youtube and was hoping all of the aposta friends on this site would help to educate this poor fella on the truth about the "truth".
i gave a brief comment and hope to hear from you guys as well!.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ev4l99whx58.
Silly boy - at 15 he should be concentrating on schoolwork - his English is somewhat poor. But I suppose he'll be leaving school very soon anyway. Poor lad.
JWs insist they're hated and persecuted, yet simple common sense shows this isn't true. As for 'persection' in other lands, well, I imagine they are blatantly breaking the Law by preaching where they KNOW it to be unlawful (so hardly 'persecution'). I heard it said not long ago that JWs suffered more in concentration camps than the Jews .
i heard it was in some 1980 mag but i don't know where.
also, what did it say?
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1975 was a very real date in the mind of many JW's at the time, we became JW's in that year at least in part due to this. If you hear anyone say to the contrary they are at the very least disingenuous.
The talk of 1975 being the time of the end, or the beginning of the time of the end was spoken about throughout the wts then.
I imagine a lot of people got caught up in it, and the Watchtower would have made a huge profit from the sudden influx of converts - no wonder it didn't want to 'correct' the JWs from preaching 1975.
i heard it was in some 1980 mag but i don't know where.
also, what did it say?
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Now when I bring up 1975, she says I am totally wrong, it never occured and I must be insane. It is all apostate rantings!!!
Amazing - I posted similar on another thread today - I recently mentioned the 1975 thing to a JW (who I remember was preaching about it at the time), and they denied it ever happened! Has a whole group of JWs just 'blocked' it out as it's 'too painful' (or embarrassing) to deal with OR do they blame themselves (as the WT has intimated) so would rather forget?
