Here's something odd, I feel I ought share... Last night JWs called (not on me, but rather not say who) and *he* told them *he* doesn't like JWs because of <quote> ''the Org, the way they treat people, the blood thing, the silly dates, the Riley Trust and smoking, the use of the web, and the secret editions of the WT...and if he wanted to sell me stuff I'll have the secret one please'' ...to which the JW told him that he could download the WTs from the web, including the study edition!! First time I've heard this. *He's* asked them to return to 'discuss things', but I suspect they won't. Odd.
MidwichCuckoo
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How much will Watchtower publish online?
by jonathanconway ini've noticed that they have a small selection of articles online.. however the majority of their stuff is only accessible through either the watchtower cdrom or dead trees.. has anyone yet asked them about putting their entire library online?.
if their aim is to "spead the good news", then what possible reason could there be for not making the content publicly accessible?.
since they already have it in electronic form (i believe the content is already in html format on the cd), the cost of doing this would be minimal, and it would probably make their website rank better in google.. of course, the flip-side is that this would allow others to link to their content and discuss it openly and, anonymously, which might expose them to much more criticism than they've ever experienced before.. but i'm wondering what their excuse would be if someone asked them "why not"?.
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How much will Watchtower publish online?
by jonathanconway ini've noticed that they have a small selection of articles online.. however the majority of their stuff is only accessible through either the watchtower cdrom or dead trees.. has anyone yet asked them about putting their entire library online?.
if their aim is to "spead the good news", then what possible reason could there be for not making the content publicly accessible?.
since they already have it in electronic form (i believe the content is already in html format on the cd), the cost of doing this would be minimal, and it would probably make their website rank better in google.. of course, the flip-side is that this would allow others to link to their content and discuss it openly and, anonymously, which might expose them to much more criticism than they've ever experienced before.. but i'm wondering what their excuse would be if someone asked them "why not"?.
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MidwichCuckoo
What excuse can there possibly be, to not share knowledge, when A) the cost of sharing it is zero, B) you're an organization who's primary goal is supposed to be the spreading of knowledge?
Exactly Jonathan (and welcome )
The Watchtower is very selective in which parts of its own publications it wants made public. Basically, only current publications are 'safe' (if you're not aware of it, Google 'Quotes Watchtower'). Considering the WT is, more or less, God's Word, you would think the WT would distribute it in the most efficient way, reaching as many people Worldwide in the shortest time (as, let's face it, time IS short, we're in the Last Days...again). They could reach almost every inbox around the Globe in superfast time (not to mention other better ways of preaching). No money in it yet. I expect flogging magazines serves several purposes.
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Why is it that JWs can toss around insults like "Worldly" when talking about non-JWs? (Fiancee got offended).
by SnakesInTheTower inso yesterday i get this telephone call from a jw sister.
let's call her sister naive.
i knew sister naive when she was a teenager, knew her ex-husband when he and i were growing up in the congo.
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MidwichCuckoo
Snakes - I've found that JWs disregard the feelings of 'Worldly' people because as their persecutors they must be insensitive. Is Sister Naive miffed about the Congregation losing a 'marriageable brother' ? - there are never enough to go around anyway, lol. Best wishes and congratulations to you and the future Mrs Snakes.
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Clever ploy to get sisters to monitor husband's internet use in today's WT
by Mickey mouse inin today's study watchtower there was, yet again, more demonization of the internet.
although the paragraph purported to be about guarding against pornography, it struck me that they are attempting to kill two birds with one stone here, without mentioning one of the birds by name.
here's a scan, check out paragraph 15:.
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MidwichCuckoo
It's all about controlling internet usage. Suggesting 'chaperoning' as a safeguard against viewing pornography justifies 'supervising' to the R&F. In reality, though, the WT is saying 'don't trust your partner alone on the internet'. They know that the Internet is a threat to the Org, and they can't forbid JWs to access it, so I think they're using the family unit to restrict what is being accessed (their best option at the moment).
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this is a thread to anull our baptisium...
by highdose ini'll start:.
the borg makes a big deal out of the fact that everyone choses of their own free choice to be baptised, so on that same basis i see no reason why i can't chose to anul it.. i highdose here by anull my baptisium to the borg on the basis that:1) i had been both brain washed and pressured in to doing it 2) i did not understand what i was joining 3) i was a child 4) i never said my baptismal vows anyway 4)had i waited till i was adult i would never have gotten baptised.. therefore my baptisum is invaild ( not worth the paper its written on so to speak) i never was a jw, i'm not now and i don't intend to be ever in the future.. ...there that feels alot better!
would anyone care to join me?.
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WT Baptism is merely a contract with the WT Org. Under the (real) Law, contracts with minors are (mostly) illegal, to protect their lack of maturity, and therefore cannot be enforced. Therefore, in my opinion, because WT Baptism is not a binding contract when performed on minors, it is annulled by definition.
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Exposing their duplicity
by Mickey mouse ini thought i would have a go at writing to a journalist about the jehovah's witness shunning policy.
i sent this to stephen bates, the religious affairs correspondent for the guardian (he wrote the story about the wt and the un back in 2001).. i have no idea if it will result in anything but here it is:.
dear mr bates,.
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MidwichCuckoo
Well I like it ...there's enough scandal attached to the WT for Stephen Bates to do a weekly article. Fingers crossed for a quick response!
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What really matters to the elders- Podcast 9 Judicial Hearing
by Hobo Ken inthis is the next part of the story, when the judicial hearings begin.
click on the link here to listen...deathorobedience.blogspot.com.
also free on itunes here.
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MidwichCuckoo
I only managed to listen to first 16 minutes ( sound a tad quiet then PC froze...sheeesh)..
Jehovah's Witnesses are forbidden from entering into these judicial hearings with a legal representative or with an impartial by-stander....etc
Why are they so worried about legal representatives (or some sort of impartial support)? Is it because they're unsure of the legality of these sort of hearings? What's David's day job...lol? It amazes me that people will are so willing to be 'witnesses' to condemn someone in a pretend trial (which it 'sounded' like - did one chap say something about being 'addressed through the chair'...?) - dunno how they could look you in the eye
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I feel so discouraged
by mouthy inthat micheal jacksons kids are being raise in the wt.
how very,very sad.
i am so upset about that..
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MidwichCuckoo
Don't feel too discouraged Mouthy. MJ's oldest kids are 12 and 11, and any sudden JW indoctrination would probably fail miserably. They've already gone through the 'informative' years in a different environment (although I do appreciate that being recently bereaved they are vulnerable BUT they do have each other).
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Scottish Assembly article
by Freedom Fighter inhi folks.
some info regarding the above.
a few interesting points, particularly about the 'spend'.
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MidwichCuckoo
I'd be interested to know the ages of the 50 baptised...and how many were there with their parents, lol
An estimated 8,000-plus people will attend each day, injecting more than £1 million into the local economy.
Hotels, bed and breakfast establishments, restaurants and shops will all benefit from the economic spin-off
Interesting.
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SHOULD JWS PLAY FOOTBALL?
by badboy ini understand that it originated as an aztec war game,therefore should jws play football?.
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MidwichCuckoo
I UNDERSTAND THAT IT ORIGINATED AS AN AZTEC WAR GAME
Actually, I wasn't aware of that - but didn't the WT object to chess on similar 'thinking'?