Nope. I left before the internet. However, I still felt guilt. Now I don't because of the internet. Of information I accidentally stumbled upon whilst searching for something entirely unrelated (doesn't God move in mysterious ways? lol). I was gobsmacked when I read about the WT's association with the UN (selling their collective soul for a library card, lol). Now I'm totally guilt free. Edited to add - The internet just reinforced why I left.
MidwichCuckoo
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If you never have used the internet, would you have returned to the borg or stay in the organization?
by Iamallcool inif i have never used the internet, i would probably return to the borg by now.
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How did you long-timers do it before the internet / Ray Franz books / abundant information?
by irondork inwith all the tools and information at the disposal of newly awakened ones, it's still no easy task coming to terms with the magnitude of it all.
it still takes a lot of gut-wrenching time and effort to get to the point where you are sure you made the right decision to leave.. .
how did you long-timers (old-timers, respectfully) manage it without crisis of conscience, christian freedom, jwn, jwfacts, freeminds, access to thousands of fellow survivors with stories just like yours?.
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MidwichCuckoo
Morning Phizzy
In the end though, the final nail in the coffin was realising that 1914 was simply not in the Bible, and no Elder being prepared to come and defend the doctrine to me.
Blimey, the amount of times I've asked to have that explained to me. JWs actually believe they KNOW the maths but have forgotten it, lol. ''I'll get back to you'' (they never do). You would think that as it was/is a MAJOR doctrine they'd know it inside out.
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My email to my mother - sorry a bit long
by darthweef inhello - i am new here .. just joined a couple of days ago, and have enjoyed the bit of lurking that i have done.
a breif history, i was raised as a jw, was active until i was 36, and was a regular pioneer for 7 years and a ministerial servant for 5 years, and was one when i left.
my reasons for leaving are not important at this point, but i have spent the last year or so researching the flood and more extensively the theory of evolution.. i have finally decided to broach the topic with my mother since after all this time, the last of my jw friends and my brother and sister have all decided that they should shun me now, and i want to make a last ditch effort to convey to my mother that i didn't leave the organization so i could do lines of coke off a cheap hooker, but because i actually believe that this is not the truth.. i'd love some feedback on the email and what you think the possibility of it actually breaking through the "permafrost" created by the society.
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MidwichCuckoo
What Nugget said. It never fails to amaze me how JWs totally trust the WT's 'research' yet easily dismiss the research of professionals. I'd be interested to read your Mum's response (if you get one). Sadly 'evolution' is something too easily dismissed by JWs as it's 'against God'. Once they have to 'think' about evolution, then too many other things would need to be addressed (eg., timelines) Welcome darthweef
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MidwichCuckoo
You know what maths is..? To reach an answer, we also have to show how we reach that answer.
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How Will The Watchtower Handle Disclosure?
by metatron infor me, the disclosure of ufo's as being real is just matter of time.
it's not a matter of any mayan calendar or galactic alignment.
it's simply the eventual outcome of increasing and increasingly bold ufo observations.
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MidwichCuckoo
I think they would exploit/twist (to fit an agenda) Acts 2v19 - ''And I will show wonders in the heavens above...''
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587 BC for Total Dunderheads
by Farkel inif you're a dunderhead on neo-babylonian history (like me) you've probably remained totally clueless whenever the subject of the chronology leading to back 607 b.c.
since i had nothing better to do today, i decided to finally take the time it takes to understand why dub chronology on that date is wrong.
this piece of information alone should give you a clue about how bored i am!.
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I never get bored of reading these. It's quite astounding how the R&F just believe incorrect maths, lol..
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Has anybody given any thought for Calebs freind ?
by smiddy inafter all, this unidentified freind of caleb gives him a toy, which calebs mom finds objectionable , shouldn`t she just have said to caleb ,give it back to your freind ?
and not dump it in the trash can ?
what sort of a message does that send to caleb (or any other children who watch this video ) calebs mom should have acknowledged that his freind gave him a present, and it should be appreciated , not to disrespectfully throw it away in the trash can with no thought to the giver of the present.. smiddy.
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MidwichCuckoo
Yes, I responded as such on a previous thread. In addition, I also think JWs are taught that the feelings of 'Worldly' peeps are irrelevent/don't matter.
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Watchtower's New "Toy Story" - What Parents Need To Know
by cedars ini've uploaded a new blog article that addresses the latest dvd release at the current district convention, namely "become jehovah's friend!
" - the tale of young caleb and his brush with divine wrath over a plastic toy wizard.
a link to the article, which includes the youtube samples of the production, is below:.
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MidwichCuckoo
Cheers Cedars ...
It does make me wonder why the WT would release such an 'article' at this time. How much are they charging for this wonderful pece of cinematic excellence? Do we see an Oscar nomination in the offing? Lol. ''And nominations for best animated short film are...''
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Watchtower's New "Toy Story" - What Parents Need To Know
by cedars ini've uploaded a new blog article that addresses the latest dvd release at the current district convention, namely "become jehovah's friend!
" - the tale of young caleb and his brush with divine wrath over a plastic toy wizard.
a link to the article, which includes the youtube samples of the production, is below:.
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MidwichCuckoo
So let me get this right - it's ok for the WT to 'create' fictional wizards (to scare children)..?
Is this released in England/UK too?
I think Caleb's friend has learned a valuable lesson - JWs are ungrateful. Imagine if the scenario was reversed. Caleb gave his friend something that he spent his own money on to please his friend, and the friend just discarded it. Poor Caleb would be hurt, but he'd also learn that 'Worldly' people are thoughtless etc.
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Today's wt study article quotes a Nazi mass murderer as a reference
by fugue intoday's study article, "do not look at the things behind," from the 3/15/12 study edition, which was reviewed by blondie in her thread, has a footnote on paragraph 12.. the original-language word here translated refuse.
also meant what is thrown to the dogs,.
dung, excrement.
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MidwichCuckoo
"talk about double standards ... they refuse to sing hymns glorifying God becasue they were written or composed by "worldlies" but they offer up a study theme written by a war criminal"