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i'd like to get comments from people about whether and how much they were shocked, surprised, or otherwise bothered by the watchtower society's becoming an associated non-governmental organization (ngo).. note that i'd like to see these comments because they might lead to some interesting publicity, so please comment accordingly.. alanf
For me it split open and killed any hope I might have had of some remnant of integrity and honesty left in the Governing Body. They play shell games and are just as disloyal to Jehovah as Judas was to the Christ.
The articles praising the U.N. were a disgusting display of hypocrisy and a sell out. They have betrayed us, lied to us and to our children. They have apostazied from Jehovah and his Son.
Daytona
The world will end when the Governing Body says it will and not a millenium sooner! They're just waiting for Freddy to send them a sign.
So far the guy's been rather silent, but hope reigns in the GB!
"Come on Freddy, send us a sign!"
Daytona
after a recent 'spiritual' discussion with a relative, it hit me that so much of the jw terminology is not to be found anywhere in the bible or, at best is taken totally out of context.
yet, it's by these terms & titles that jws approve and condemn each other, the entire world, and worse believe that god even cares!.
i can just imagine someone at the pearly gates, explaining to peter: 'yeah, but i was a "pioneer!".
Jehovah's Organization.
go ahead, i'm listening...
"Look! Your house is abandoned to you."
what was your worst point of counsel?
i think for most men, it was gesturing to an audience while trying to make it look natural.
i remember writing on my notes to gesture and to speak slowly... what was your hardest point of counsel to work on?.
Timing. Couldn't keep my mouth shut.
Daytona
are certain boes and their application of principle the problem?.
were jws ever on the right track?.
are the gbs the source of all the org troubles?.
Things started to "go wrong" shortly after the Apostles died. Paul tried to prepare the early disciples for this event.
What we see today in the churches are the barnacles which have grown for 2000 years over the teachings of the Christ making them unrecognizable to most church going Christians.
Daytona
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i was talking to a witness the other day and i was explaining from revelation how there is only one calling to heaven and there is not an earthly calling.
and the jw asked me to explain the verse from pslam which states teh meek shall inherit the earth and reside in it forever, any one have any scripture to refute his argument.
Leolaia,
You are correct. The Levites were not given a tribal inheritance but rather the right to have homes and pastures in cities scattered among the other 12 tribes. The land of Israel was divided only 12 ways, not 13. Levi was not given a tribal inheritance but he was given homes and pastures in order that when the priests were not serving at the Temple they could have sustenance though having no tribal land inheritance. Levi's inheritance was Jehovah not a large tract of tribal land. A home with pastures does not equate with the tribal lands inheritance.
I think it's foolish to discount the pattern set in the OT, imo.
Daytona
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i was talking to a witness the other day and i was explaining from revelation how there is only one calling to heaven and there is not an earthly calling.
and the jw asked me to explain the verse from pslam which states teh meek shall inherit the earth and reside in it forever, any one have any scripture to refute his argument.
Leolaia,
There were 12 tribes who received a land allotment. Was the tribe of Levi one of them?
Daytona
i confirmed from a reliable source that my brother will be going to bethel.
we have no contact.
what requirements do you have to meet for this "honor"?
To qualify for Bethel you have to be someone who puts the Governing Body above God and his Son, on paper at least. On paper, you must either be a pioneer or have a skill they desperately need. You must also have the recommendation of your PO or another qualified upper class ass kisser. A well placed Dad works too.
Daytona
for bettor or worse -- and it definitely seems it was worse for some here -- the witness religion provides a sense of community for it's members.
humans are social creatures; we evolved to be part of a community.
there are practical, emotional, intellectual and, if you want to use the word, spiritual, benefits to having some sense of group belonging.
There are some souls searching for community who must face the fact that there is no community for them.
It's when they face that wall, accept it and climb it, that they then find peace.
Daytona
