a continuous overlap- like shingles on a roof
I love that, OTWO. And, hey -- that now explains the recent increases -- not decreases -- of partakers. Makes perfect sense to me.
Where do I join up?
Len
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Observation on 'new light' on this generation
by isaacaustin inobservation:.
understand jesus words about "this generation"?.
he evidently meant that the lives of the anointed.
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JW Wife Donates Kidney to Her Husband
by jamiebowers injulia is a jehovah's witness and cannot donate or receive blood.
she says this has led to misconceptions that witnesses cannot donate organs.
but she said the kidney was drained of blood for .
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Julia is apparently a new JW, has a poor memory, or poor ability to research her own directives from the Watchtower.
*** w67 11/15 p. 703 Questions From Readers ***
Our bodies are the creation of Jehovah God. (Ps. 100:3; 95:6; Job 10:8) Christians might allow apparently necessary surgery to be performed, such as to remove a diseased limb, but they do not needlessly mutilate their bodies created by Jehovah. Would allowing a body to be mutilated after death be showing respect for and appreciation of God’s creation? True, in some instances there may be legal requirements that Christians abide by, such as when the law requires a postmortem examination to determine the cause of death. (Rom. 13:1, 7; Mark 12:17) In such cases the next of kin can usually request that the organs not be removed for transplant or reuse. In this way, even though an autopsy might be required, the Christian can prevent misuse of the body of a loved one. But when such laws do not apply, the Christian can decide in such a way as to avoid unnecessary mutilation and any possible misuse of the body. Thus he will be able to have a clear conscience before God.--1 Pet. 3:16.
It should be evident from this discussion that Christians who have been enlightened by God’s Word do not need to make these decisions simply on the basis of personal whim or emotion. They can consider the divine principles recorded in the Scriptures and use these in making personal decisions as they look to God for direction, trusting him and putting their confidence in the future that he has in store for those who love him.
*** w69 11/15 p. 701 Appreciating Jehovah’s Protection ***
The day before surgery was due the chairman of the kidney transplant team came in and asked if I would agree to making the kidney I was relinquishing available to a young patient whose kidneys had failed. It appears that though the artery leading to my kidney was not functioning, the kidney itself was in good shape. The doctor was keen to have my kidney, but I explained to him that as one of Jehovah’s witnesses I must abide by what God’s law indicates in such a matter. I told him he would get a frank and thorough answer to his inquiry after we had had a family discussion of God’s Word on the issue.
Later that day we informed him of our Biblical position with respect to human flesh and its use and quoted the relevant passages of God’s Word. He asked if I could retain a good conscience after denying my kidney to his young patient. In reply I pointed out that my kidney was not mine to give, and must be used in harmony with the will of the One who created it. And he was compelled to admit that even with the kidney he could not guarantee the survival of his patient. I pointed out that future life through the promised resurrection for myself and his young patient depended upon our obedience to God’s principles as set out in the Holy Scriptures.Len
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Just got ahold of "secret elders meetings" notes.
by aquagirl incant say how,but i am in possession of about 10 years worth of elders meetings notes.financial info,personal lists,signed letters etc.disfellowshipping meeting minutes,the works.it is unbelieveable.some of the note are "investigate so and so,she was seen at a movie,talk to sister so and so about her weight,investigate the matter between so and so and so and so etc.
letters from circuit servant visits w/recommendatons.anyone got any ideas?there are even minutes of a meeting in which some of the elders "had words"...all in glorious initialed and signed paper.numbers,names,contributions..what should i do with this "blessing from hohoba?
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Attention, original poster. Is it Aquagirl?
Barb Anderson replied, via email to me, that she sent you a PM (private message). Since our forum is only a year old Simon still doesn't have that working completely where it displayes a different colored "opened" envelope in the upper right corner of your screen.
Simply click on the closed white envelope (next to the Logout icon) and that should get you to any PMs that you have.
Have fun.
Len
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Just got ahold of "secret elders meetings" notes.
by aquagirl incant say how,but i am in possession of about 10 years worth of elders meetings notes.financial info,personal lists,signed letters etc.disfellowshipping meeting minutes,the works.it is unbelieveable.some of the note are "investigate so and so,she was seen at a movie,talk to sister so and so about her weight,investigate the matter between so and so and so and so etc.
letters from circuit servant visits w/recommendatons.anyone got any ideas?there are even minutes of a meeting in which some of the elders "had words"...all in glorious initialed and signed paper.numbers,names,contributions..what should i do with this "blessing from hohoba?
"lol.
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Since our PM system doesn't alert the recipient, Barbara may never see a message to her.
I've emailed her and given her the link of this thread. Good luck.
Len
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Lest we forget -- WTsaid this exactly 100 years ago
by Fatfreek inif you were a jw 100 years ago what would you have been reading?
here are a few snippets.
highlighting is mine.. .
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Jabberwock: Which scriptural prophecies were thought to point to the Federation of Protestant Churches/ Evangelical Alliance?
The following is from ZION'S Watch Tower AND HERALD OF CHRIST'S
PRESENCE, Jan, 1880, article "DIALOGUE. Rev. 13"
It appears to be formatted in the form of just that, a dialog between two brothers -- Brother A being the teacher. Highlighting is mine.
B. I am here again Bro. A., anxious as ever to enjoy whatever
light may be due the church; I know that you believe the word of
God to be a lamp, whose oil is the spirit, which sheds its light
upon the path of the just as fast as the light is due, in order that
at each step we may not be in darkness. Have you seen anything
fresh or new lately?
A. God's word is "new every morning and fresh every evening."
In this respect it differs from all other books and, undoubtedly it
is a fountain of living waters (truths) from the fact that it
contains special dispensational truths, as well as general truth.
Thus it is a great storehouse from which the Lord's servants are
to bring forth "things new and old," that the household of faith
may have meat in due season." I seem to see in a clearer light
than ever before, the present condition of the nominal church
and its future. We talked some of this subject at a previous
interview, when we considered the text--"Babylon is fallen."
The subject in general and the Bible teaching concerning it,
seems daily to open up more clearly. I think too, that it is--the
meat due here. Many saints in "Babylon" are ignorant of the
fact, and therefore do not obey the call--"Come out from her my
people, so that you may have no fellowship with her sins and
that you receive not of her plagues." Would this subject be
agreeable to you this evening?
B. It would, and profitable too I hope. I was much interested in
our last conversation on The Antichrist and its picture in Rev.
12.
A. Then we will consider the "Two horned beast" of the next
chapter now. It seems to follow connectedly, our last topic.
B. Suppose you use the Emphatic Diaglott; it is so much clearer.
Then I can have the advantage of both translations. ...
B. I notice that the Sinaitic MSS. adds the word also in this
verse-- "That they also should make an image." --Would not this
seem to indicate that Protestantism as represented in this beast,
is an image of the first beast also?
A. Yes, the thought is there even without the word also, since
they are both beasts, but also, does add to the force. Well, they
took the advice of example and did organize such an image. In
London, Aug. 19th, 1846, there assembled representatives of all
the leading Protestant denominations of Europe and America,
who there organized under the name--"Evangelical Alliance."
That was a church organization in many respects similar in form
("an image") to Papacy. Its design is to increase the power and
authority of Protestantism, just as the formation of the Leopard
beast was the result of a desire to increase the power and
authority of Papacy.
B. Surely you do not mean to say that the "Evangelical
Alliance," which seemingly has been for the cementing of all
Protestant Christians into one organization is an evil thing.
A. The union of believers is one of the things for which we long
and pray, but it is brought about, not by the organization of
societies, but by the Holy Spirit. It is a union of hearts bound
together by the golden chord of truth; not a union of church
societies bound by creeds.
If the Evangelical Alliance were the coming together of
Christians, saying--We realize that there is "One Lord, one faith,
one baptism," and that all truth is in harmony, and therefore, as
we who profess to be God's children differ widely on various
subjects and our various creeds in many particulars contradict
each other, we desire to lay aside all written creeds and we unite
in this manner as Christians, with no rule nor creed but the
Bible. We will henceforth strive to be taught of God and seek to
come to harmony in the understanding of His word.
I say if this were the object, I could rejoice at such an
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Lest we forget -- WTsaid this exactly 100 years ago
by Fatfreek inif you were a jw 100 years ago what would you have been reading?
here are a few snippets.
highlighting is mine.. .
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If you were a JW 100 years ago what would you have been reading? Here are a few snippets. Highlighting is mine.
December 1, 1909
Do not forget that Christmas is the most favorable time
for giving to your friends something expressive of your
faith. The DAILY HEAVENLY MANNA and THE DIVINE PLAN
OF THE AGES, with many of our readers, head the list. For
a children's booklet remember the "Wonderful Story of
God's Love." See prices, etc., in our November 1 issue.
Unrest prevails the world over.
How we long to give the poor, groaning creation a proper
view of that blessed hope which so inspires our hearts--the
Second Presence of our Lord and the establishment of the
Millennial Kingdom--his rule of righteousness for the blessing
of all the families of the earth. "Be patient, brethren,"
while diligent and fervent in spirit.
The mind of man is fertile. Recent wonderful developments
of aeroplane and dirigible balloons are leading the
national thought to a new line of warfare. Aerial battles
are anticipated. The dropping of explosives upon battleships
and cities, arsenals and armies, is being studied. ...
The Apostle pointed out as among the conditions prevalent
in the end of this age the following:--Disobedience to
parents; lawlessness; pleasure-loving; ferocity of temper,
etc. We need not on this occasion go deeply into the why,
but recognize the fact that many of these predictions are
now fulfilled before our eyes.
Our readers well know that in 1880 we pointed out in
the columns of this journal the now much discussed Federation
of Protestant Churches. We showed that it was foreshadowed
in Scripture prophecy: that the beginning of it
was in 1846 in the organization of the Evangelical Alliance
and that the full development waited for the closing hours
of this age.
December 15, 1909
From various quarters the word came to us that the
leaders of classes were protesting that WATCH TOWER publications
should not be referred to in the meetings, but
merely the Bible. This sounded loyal to God's Word; but
it was not so. It was merely the effort of those teachers to
come between the people of God and the Divinely provided
light upon God's Word.
One Brother has tried the plan of introducing
the six volumes of DAWN-STUDIES for $2.15--only
about the price of one volume as such books are ordinarily
sold. He reports that he sells as many sets of six as
he formerly sold sets of three. And where formerly he
sold one he now can usually sell three. Should this plan
become generally successful it might lift our output for the
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Who's the best JWN liar? I'll start -- "we shun you cuz we love you"
by Fatfreek ina wisconsin man won top prize in the "world's best liar" contest.. the burlington liars club gave its top award to 58-year-old public health inspector jerry legro of sun prairie.
his lie: ""i just realized how bad the economy really is.
i recently bought a new toaster oven and as a complimentary gift, i was given a bank.".
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"The NWT is the most accurate bible translation ever. Saw that on Jeopardy."
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Who's the best JWN liar? I'll start -- "we shun you cuz we love you"
by Fatfreek ina wisconsin man won top prize in the "world's best liar" contest.. the burlington liars club gave its top award to 58-year-old public health inspector jerry legro of sun prairie.
his lie: ""i just realized how bad the economy really is.
i recently bought a new toaster oven and as a complimentary gift, i was given a bank.".
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Who's the best JWN liar? I'll start -- "we shun you cuz we love you"
by Fatfreek ina wisconsin man won top prize in the "world's best liar" contest.. the burlington liars club gave its top award to 58-year-old public health inspector jerry legro of sun prairie.
his lie: ""i just realized how bad the economy really is.
i recently bought a new toaster oven and as a complimentary gift, i was given a bank.".
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Apostates shut down our Gail Bethea-Jackson web page? We never heard of her.
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Who's the best JWN liar? I'll start -- "we shun you cuz we love you"
by Fatfreek ina wisconsin man won top prize in the "world's best liar" contest.. the burlington liars club gave its top award to 58-year-old public health inspector jerry legro of sun prairie.
his lie: ""i just realized how bad the economy really is.
i recently bought a new toaster oven and as a complimentary gift, i was given a bank.".
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Nope, we never shut down that Quotes website. Peter Mosier did.