Are all of these commments on this thread the result of being the "thinkingest people on the planet?
Posts by donny
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38US Zone visit: disappointing, depressing, discouraging
by sir82 ini will have plenty of "snark" to post later on, but please indulge me while i get this out of my system..... suppose you are the leaders...yes, the leaders...there are only 7 of you...for the one true religion in all the universe.. jehovah the god of the whole universe speaks to you, you alone, out of 7 billion+ people on teh planet.. you have an opportunity, thanks to the advancements in technology, to speak to 750,000 of your followers "live", and another 750,000 or so within 24 hours.. 1.5 million people!
hanging on your every word!.
this is the first time in history you can simultaneously, or nearly simultaneously, address so many of your adherents.. what message are you going to present for this special occasion?.
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New JW Podcast Show - Amazing Interview with Irwin Zalkin!
by God_Delusion inhello guys & gals!.
we've just launched our brand new episode, s01e01 - irwin zalkin, which we recorded last night.. you can listen to it right here - http://www.jwpodcast.org/2014/11/03/s01e01-irwin-zalkin.
in this ground-breaking bumper show, we interview irwin zalkin, the lawyer who filed and won this new child abuse case against the watchtower organisation, which saw the victim, jose lopez awarded $13.5 million.. i think you'll agree with me (after listening to the interview) that irwin really knows his 'watchtower' stuff!.
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donny
Good for you. I have been waiting on a JW based podcast for a longtime. I will check it out this evening.
Donny
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I Would Like To Know Exactly What JWs Believe Or Not Believe In
by minimus ini hear people saying it is not the same religion that i knew.
what is the major difference?.
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donny
They also do not seem to hound those who no longer attend meetings or have changed religions like they did when I was in (1982-1992). My son is now an elder, but my two daughters have nothing to do with the religion.
One of them has been married twice and is currently "shacking" up and she has not received one visit from any elders.
My other daughter told my ex-wife than she "no longer believes that crap" and she too has never been approached.
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Jewish Exodus from Egypt - Documatary - 20 Jun 2013
by Da.Furious ini have received a link from a friend of mine, he is a baptist pastor.. link address is here.. the article title is: if you dont think the jewish exodus from egypt was real, then watch this video and think again.
the important or interesting thing in this youtube video is that it has some evidence, as the researcher claims, that the exodus happened and the red sea split into two in addition to evidence of egyptian army died at the location.. the documentary is 1 hour 24 minutes long.. .
apologies if this was posted previously but i ran a search and couldnt identify similar one.. as some of you know i am a born-in active jw with a mind of his own!.
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donny
I will check it out later when I get home from work. So far I have not found any of these type of documentaries very convincing. I have seen others films like this about this exodus as well as several that claim to have found the Ark of the Covenant, which is always kept hidden regardless of where it is being stored, and ones about finding pieces of Noah's ark.
But so far I have not seen anything yet that convinces me that 3 to 7 million people wandered about the deserts of the Middle East for decades. There would be plenty of evidence left in the dry heat of the desert if such an Exodus took place.
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How Has Turning Athiest/ Agnostic Affected You?
by minimus inmany jws believed in god.
now many here, do not believe in a deity.
how has this affected you in your life?.
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donny
Everyday life makes much more sense now that I don't have to find a way to make "God" fit into the picture. As a another unbeliever once said "Without God and Religion, you have good people doing good things and bad people doing bad things. But it takes a belief in God and Religion to make a good person do a bad thing."
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Lillian Gobitas Klose dead at 90
by Balaamsass2 indid a seventh grader have a better grasp of her beliefs than the modern day governing body of jehovah's witnesses?.
she stood her ground: a childs conscience made america a better place september 13, 2014 12:00 am.
share with others:.
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donny
I remember reading about the Gobitas kids in the book "The Bible vs the Flag." The non-JW author did a good job of showing how many believers of other faiths in the U.S. chasitised and persecuted the Witnesses for their appearance of not supporting the war effort in WW II.
While I no longer support the beliefs of the JW's, you have to give them credit for standing up to the courts during this difficult period. Many of teh verdicts they won benefited everyone, not just themselves.
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Skinny dipping in the new order?
by donny inthe jw's are quick to tell you that when jehovah has finished kicking the ass of those who do not acknowledge the teachings of the watchtowers governing body in new york state, that those who survive will live forever in a restored paradise on earth.
the same goes for those who are resurrected during the 1000 year reign of jesus and survive satan being let loose "for a little while" at the end.. they are also quick to tell you that everything will be just as it was for adam and eve before the latter decided she needed a fruit fix and then got her hubby high on it as well.. and when you view the illustrations in their publications showing what they view this paradise to be, it shows a world of lush color.
the deep greens of all the trees and grass, the clean blue skies, puffy white clouds and tables covered in a plethora of fresh fruits and vegetables representing just about every major color.
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donny
One person sent me a message stating that with the Society having all of the pedo issues, they may start showing pictures of nude folks in paradise. Then they can say they were ahead of the game long before paradise became reality.
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Skinny dipping in the new order?
by donny inthe jw's are quick to tell you that when jehovah has finished kicking the ass of those who do not acknowledge the teachings of the watchtowers governing body in new york state, that those who survive will live forever in a restored paradise on earth.
the same goes for those who are resurrected during the 1000 year reign of jesus and survive satan being let loose "for a little while" at the end.. they are also quick to tell you that everything will be just as it was for adam and eve before the latter decided she needed a fruit fix and then got her hubby high on it as well.. and when you view the illustrations in their publications showing what they view this paradise to be, it shows a world of lush color.
the deep greens of all the trees and grass, the clean blue skies, puffy white clouds and tables covered in a plethora of fresh fruits and vegetables representing just about every major color.
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donny
My local JW source, a co-worker, has no answer for this. In fact he said it was the first time he had ever heard the question. Then he added, "What makes you think of these things?"
I just replied "Inquiring minds want to know."
Donny
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What is the wackiest or strangest teaching that Witnesses adhere to?
by stuckinarut2 ini guess there are many, but what would be the strangest teaching, or "wackiest" ?.
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donny
That 95 % of Gods word is about fear and punishement and then they say "God is Love."
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Skinny dipping in the new order?
by donny inthe jw's are quick to tell you that when jehovah has finished kicking the ass of those who do not acknowledge the teachings of the watchtowers governing body in new york state, that those who survive will live forever in a restored paradise on earth.
the same goes for those who are resurrected during the 1000 year reign of jesus and survive satan being let loose "for a little while" at the end.. they are also quick to tell you that everything will be just as it was for adam and eve before the latter decided she needed a fruit fix and then got her hubby high on it as well.. and when you view the illustrations in their publications showing what they view this paradise to be, it shows a world of lush color.
the deep greens of all the trees and grass, the clean blue skies, puffy white clouds and tables covered in a plethora of fresh fruits and vegetables representing just about every major color.
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donny
The JW's are quick to tell you that when Jehovah has finished kicking the ass of those who do not acknowledge the teachings of the Watchtowers governing body in New York state, that those who survive will live forever in a restored paradise on earth. The same goes for those who are resurrected during the 1000 year reign of Jesus and survive Satan being let loose "for a little while" at the end.
They are also quick to tell you that everything will be just as it was for Adam and Eve before the latter decided she needed a fruit fix and then got her hubby high on it as well.
And when you view the illustrations in their publications showing what they view this paradise to be, it shows a world of lush color. The deep greens of all the trees and grass, the clean blue skies, puffy white clouds and tables covered in a plethora of fresh fruits and vegetables representing just about every major color. Then add the scenes of little children playing with lions, bears and other beasts that today are considered dangerous, and you have paradise.
But there is one thing they do not show that we "know" was a factor in pre-fallen Eden. Nudity. According to "Gods" word, the couple were naked in their perfection and did not consider clothing until they became aware of their nakedness after munching out on the forbidden fruit.
So logically (one of the Watchtowers favorite words), this would mean that once the survivors of Armageddon and their fellow resurrected ones achieved perfection after the millennial reign of Jesus, then the clothes should go. After all, wearing apparel is only needed because of sin.
However when you look at the Watchtowers publications of these scenes of the future paradise, not only are the people clothed, but they are clothed very conservatively. Some show men in suits and women wearing high heels.
Really? People in the new world will continue to dress up for meetings as they do today? Will those future paradise inhabitants be aware of the story of Adam and Eve? And if one asks "Why are we not naked as they were before the fall?," what will the "logical" answer be?
What is the Watchtowers explanation of the need of clothing in the perfect paradise earth? Maybe Ross and the Burling Coat Factory will survive and be viable in Gods new "system of things."
