the elders are coming this saturday to do their yearly.
shepherding .. .
i desperatly need a couple good "questions" to throw at.
Well.....They were a "NO SHOW".....haha..
Know it will happen sooner or later....
Thanks "Mommy" for your post, I agree with you and Stepehw20..
Why keep "running" so to speak,
I have no ties to these people, no family in the truth...Not
looking for a confrontation with them, just Freedom.
Finally posted my story on the "Main" area.. Feels Better
Later,
Cas
the elders are coming this saturday to do their yearly.
shepherding .. .
i desperatly need a couple good "questions" to throw at.
To FreeaTlast and all....
Loved your posts...so full of wisdom that we new ones need,
so badly......SEE, I would have stepped right into the
"Lion's Den" without everyone's help.
In ans. to a previous question, No, I do not have any "fleshly
family" in the truth....My family have always supported any
thing that I have wanted to do..and for that I am grateful.
Hate that I have spent the last 17 or 18 years trying to avoid
them........"Advice of Elder's....Worldly you know..!!!!"
Trying so hard now to make up for "Lost Time" with them..
Also Thanks to all who e-mailed me.....a Great Help.....
Cas
the elders are coming this saturday to do their yearly.
shepherding .. .
i desperatly need a couple good "questions" to throw at.
Ok.....
As I said, you all, are right..."They would eat me alive"...
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From Farklel
"The best possible non-answer-answer is "I just have a lot of questions in my mind right now and need time to think about them." Say no more than that and you should be ok."
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I agree
.....But, SOMETIMES....I just get so frustrated, and want
"TO BUCK THE SYSTEM".... These will be the same two Elders, that
as I said in other threads, Literally did NOT know what to do with
me...when I finally quit going... for Instance...when I let them
know I was getting married to my present Non-Witness husband....NOT ONE of them tried to stop me.....no counsel, no visits...NOTHING. Not
that I wanted them to...
Maybe I just need to post my story in Friends, I haven't really done
that....just get it out and over...so I can BREATHE. Hope I can
feel free to "Rant and Rave, (modestly of coarse..LOL)
You all are great.....Hate that I said...."go with the flow' in
my previous post.... Isn't that what we have "Always Done" and
now we are paying for it.
Let you know how it goes,
Cas
the elders are coming this saturday to do their yearly.
shepherding .. .
i desperatly need a couple good "questions" to throw at.
Thanks so much for your posts...
You are right I am not up to a "Big Debate" at this time,
I will think on what was said... and go with the flow.
Can't wait to read about the 607 thing..
They were all good questions, maybe I'll sneak in one
or two....just for fun.
Cas
the elders are coming this saturday to do their yearly.
shepherding .. .
i desperatly need a couple good "questions" to throw at.
Mark,
I'm not really sure, maybe...because I am learning to question
things more and more...and want them to "Get Off Their High
Horse" and answer ME. These are the same men who would intimidate
me and make me feel...so "Unworthy"...
I suppose it's just some of the anger that's still inside. Now that
I've thought about it awhile today...maybe it wouldn't be such a
good idea. That was rather Impulsive.
But, I'm not sure I want to just appear still brow beaten by them.
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"Coco"....I could get away with the "depression" thing, since they
would conclude that I am still in mourning over my deceased husband.
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Yes, it would be nice to have someone who Understands me close by,
but, I find that hard to do. Thats why I have come to this web
site.
Cas
the elders are coming this saturday to do their yearly.
shepherding .. .
i desperatly need a couple good "questions" to throw at.
The Elders are coming this Saturday to do their yearly
shepherding ..
I desperatly need a couple good "Questions" to throw at
them.....to "Rattle Their Cage" so to speak...
I've not been around the board long enough to feel totally
confident in coming up with something on my own. Been
reading all of the old threads on the GB and FDS, questions
popping right and left in my head, but, don't have the
confidence to stand up to them on that. They intimidate the
H*** out of me....
I am just inactive, so they won't be too hard on me...more of a
guilt trip thing.
Anything would be appreciated,
Cas
god i hated it..every living breathing minute of it.
it was pure hell for me, and based on the pace i see the jws all over the world moving, they aint so fond of it neither.
the persecution that the jws feel they get is from irritated householders who know nothing about their religion except that they hit people over the head with it and then judge them because they dont like being hit over the head with it.
Hi All...
Count me in....I HATED SERVICE.....felt like I was "Begging"
for money. Also, hated running into someone I knew from work
or such.....True, how could people be judged from the short,
stammering message I delivered...out of total embarrassemnt..!!
Someone here said, "the householder would be better off, if we hadn't
come to their door"...
I said the same thing to the Sister that was studing with me. When I found out that I was now "Accountable for my actions, after studing for sometime. I said, "Then WHY didn't you just leave me alone, I was better off not Knowing...!!" No reply, of coarse.
One thing I hated was in the dead of Winter..the older sisters
desided that a person would "KEEP" getting out at doors, alone,
in rural ter. UNTIL they found someone at home and talked to them.
Then the next person in the car group would get out...!!!!! I
froze my *** more times than I can count... I really resented those
sisters for this. Just didn't seem fair, and since they were
considered the more "Mature" ones...who could question them...
Cas
can anyone here make any sense out of the interview found at; http://www.philstar.com/philstar/archive.asp?archive=true&category_id=17&content_id=4286.
nic'
Beats Me......
Devout Witness...??? Jesus died on a "Cross", celebrated
Valentine's Day....???
Cas
can anyone here make any sense out of the interview found at; http://www.philstar.com/philstar/archive.asp?archive=true&category_id=17&content_id=4286.
nic'
Beats Me......
Devout Witness...??? Jesus died on a "Cross", celebrated
Valentine's Day....???
Cas
my kid brother, tom, was born to witness parents.
he was something of a surprise package and my parents were delighted.
my father said that tom was:.
I read all 5 pages of this thread....and not once did I notice
anyone mention the "Physical Abuse" that children go thru at
the meetings and conventions...
Talking about the little ones here.......
I have seen small children, back handed in the mouth, for
whispering, beaten on the legs with wooden spoons, and beg
for "HELP" when finally taken to the bathroom for a more
severe flogging..!!!!! Why..?? Mostly because of disapproving
looks from the Elders....and the "More Mature" ones.
Some of these children were just babies...doing what babies
do.....
One child in my cong. had nothing but black and blue marks on
his legs, where his PO father would pinch him severely for his
everymove. Made me Sick..!!! Some would be taken outside
for their punishment... Too Shocking for the rest of the Cong.
to see or hear.
I also noticed when a child was "disiplined"...the "Smiles and
satisfied looks on the Elders faces. The harsher the punishment
the more they smiled, and gave the parents that..."great job"
look.
How can anyone....esp. the GB, who mostly have never had small
children, and never had to deal with them.... expect them
to sit quietly for 3 days at a time, at "Conventions"...
I personally was told, to take my child out (she was 6 mo. old) and
give her a good "swat on the behind". Sorry to say I was so new
and intimidated, I did this.....she screamed bloody murder and then
fell asleep..... The Elder came by and said....."See, it works every
time"...... I hate that I did that...hate that I fell into
doing my child that way....
I stopped it..and took on a more patient attitude with my child. I
am not saying children don't need to be taught to behave, but there
is a line between training and abuse.
So, from some children's experiences, I would say they were terrified
of going to the hall. I know I seen some very pitiful little faces.
Just one more straw added to the pile....
Casper
