Minimus, its not that its not important to me, its just there are so many things that I want, I'm a greedy girl.
Posts by Ellie
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Ellie
Well, I remember telling my partner what I wanted for xmas, I remember the conversation and now hes doing loads of overtime but I cant actually remember what it was I said I wanted, hope it was something good.
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Abortion
by Ellie in.
i don't know if any of you brits saw the 'this morning' show today but they had a woman on it whos mother had tried to abort her at 7 and a half months pregnant, apparentely they gave her mum some stuff to drink which burns the baby inside and out, but fortunately this baby survived and now as a woman she is campaigning for anti abortion laws to be brought in.. so, what are your views on abortion?
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Ellie
Heres the story here, its a bit long winded but interesting:
Surviving Abortion
02/12/2005
28 years ago Gianna Jessen's mother had an abortion when she was 17 years old, and seven and a half months pregnant. It failed. Hours later her baby, Gianna was born - alive. Because of the complications Gianna was born with cerebral palsy but has defied doctors predictions that she would be brain damaged and never walk. Gianna is currently over from America lobbying for the 24 week abortion limit to be reduced, and today she tells us about her miracle story.
The Abortion
Gianna was born in April 1977 in an abortion clinic in Los Angeles. Her mother, Tina, was 17 years old and seven and a half months pregnant when she decided to have an abortion. Her mother was given a saline injection which would induce her into giving birth to 'fetal tissue' within 24 hours. At around midnight Tina's waters broke. She felt the need to push and her abdomen was contracting incessantly. At 6.00am on April 6, Gianna was born - alive, weighing 2lbs. She was taken pity on by a nurse and rushed to a nearby hospital. She spent the next three months clinging to life.
Gianna's next home was an emergency foster home where she lived for 17 months (she was also abused). She was then placed in the care of Penny, a Southern California woman who cared for more than 55 children as a foster parent. Eventually Penny's daughter, Diana De Paul, adopted Gianna aged four.
Complications
At 17 months Gianna was diagnosed with cerebral palsy caused by her brain being starved of oxygen during the abortion. Doctors told Penny that Gianna would never walk or talk and that she would live in a vegetative state. But Gianna says "I had the will to live and I still do." Penny taught Gianna to walk twice, when she was three and again after surgery when she was 10.
Finding Out
Gianna discovered her mother's abortion attempt on Christmas day when she was 12. Gianna recalls that she asked her adopted mother "why do I have cerebral palsy? There must be a reason for it." Diana replied "You had a traumatic birth. You were born premature." But Gianna wasn't satisfied with this answer that she'd heard several times before so Diana told her "Your biological mother was only 17 when you were born. She probably didn't have very much hope or money." Gianna guessed that her mother had attempted to abort her before Diana could tell her. Her response. "Well, at least I have cerebral palsy for an interesting reason." Despite many questions that remained unanswered such as, "Why didn't she want me? When she found out I was still alive, was she sorry she had an abortion?" Gianna says that she does not begrudge her mother but has no desire to be in contact with her.
Extract from her testimony (at www.abortionfacts.com) written in 1996
"There were many witnesses to my entry into this world. My biological mother and other young girls in the clinic were the first to greet me. I am told this was a hysterical moment. Next was a staff nurse who apparently called emergency medical services and had me transferred to a hospital. There was not much hope for me in the beginning. I weighed only 2lbs.
A doctor once said I had a great will to live and that I fought for my life. I eventually was able to leave the hospital and be placed in foster care. My foster mother was told that it was doubtful that I would ever crawl or walk. I could not sit up independently. Through the dedication of my foster mother, and later many other people, I eventually learned to sit up, crawl, then stand. I walked with leg braces and a walker shortly before I turned age four. I was legally adopted by my foster mother's daughter, Diana De Paul, a few months after I began to walk.
I have continued in physical therapy for my disability, and after a total of four surgeries, I can now walk without assistance. It is not always easy. Sometimes I fall, but I have learned how to fall gracefully after falling 19 years. I am happy to be alive. I almost died. Every day I thank God for life. I do not consider myself a by-product of conception, a clump of tissue, or any other of the titles given to a child in the womb. I do not consider any person conceived to be any of those things.
Today, a baby is a baby when convenient. It is tissue or otherwise when the time is not right. A baby is a baby when miscarriage takes place at two, three, four months. A baby is called a tissue or clumps of cells when an abortion takes place at two, three, four months. Why is that? I see no difference. What are you seeing? Many close their eyes..."
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I want to see your children, but shun you!
by free2beme ini have relatives in the jehovah's witness religion still, and in-laws.
because my spouse and me were never officially disfellowshipped, they have a hard time with how to shun us.
basically, they don't.
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Ellie
Yes, I have that problem now.
I was never baptised but I still get shunned by my family, only my mum keeps intouch so that she can see my kids, although shes only seen my youngest daughter once and that was only for 10 minutes.
I allow her to my house or I will go to her house, she asked if she could take my oldest daughter out once to visit family but I told her no, didn't want them to tell her any bible stories, etc.
The thing is though, I was once at my mums house when my older brother turned up, he sat in the kitchen so as not to have to speak to me, and I could hear him complaining about my 2 (at the time) year old, he didn't like that she was running around and making a noise, which leads me to believe that I'm actually quite glad he stays away.
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yet another newbie
by walkaway inhello everyone, i am brand new, thought i would say hello.
i am still "in" the org, still serving "faithfully" in the hall that i grew up in.
my father is the po and i am part somewhat of a dynasty, with all my extended family being witnesses.
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Ellie
Welcome Walkaway
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Hot sisters (or brothers) in your cong...
by blakky ini was just wandering.... was it just me or was everyone thinking about it..... ive been in a few congs where some of the sisters were absolutely drop dead gorgeous!
my last cong here in sydney, there was about 160 publishers so the talent was every where... i remember having the hots for this sister, who happens to be the wife of the service overseer... she was xxx hot.
i remember always having to wear my suit coat to the meeting to hide my excitement.. i think all the bro's must have thought the same thing.
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Ellie
besides me, no, lol, no just kidding, there were 1 or 2 yes
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Nurse Stabbed on way To KH/Manchester UK
by Latte inhttp://www.manchesteronline.co.uk/men/news/s/189/189164_maniac_knifes_nurse_on_way_to_church.html.
poor girl!.
this is scary.scary that such a nasty character is still on the loose!
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Ellie
Ozziepost, thats not quite true, Manchester has some rough parts, although I don't know about the area where the attack happened, in any case, at 7pm at this time of year it is dark and not really safe for her to be walking alone.
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Abortion
by Ellie in.
i don't know if any of you brits saw the 'this morning' show today but they had a woman on it whos mother had tried to abort her at 7 and a half months pregnant, apparentely they gave her mum some stuff to drink which burns the baby inside and out, but fortunately this baby survived and now as a woman she is campaigning for anti abortion laws to be brought in.. so, what are your views on abortion?
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Ellie
I'm not anti abortion either, but I think there needs to be stricter guidelines, aborting a baby at 7 and a half months is disgusting, I don't know how anyone can do that, why not just wait the extra month and a half an have the baby adopted?
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Abortion
by Ellie in.
i don't know if any of you brits saw the 'this morning' show today but they had a woman on it whos mother had tried to abort her at 7 and a half months pregnant, apparentely they gave her mum some stuff to drink which burns the baby inside and out, but fortunately this baby survived and now as a woman she is campaigning for anti abortion laws to be brought in.. so, what are your views on abortion?
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Ellie
I don't know if any of you Brits saw the 'This Morning' show today but they had a woman on it whos mother had tried to abort her at 7 and a half months pregnant, apparentely they gave her mum some stuff to drink which burns the baby inside and out, but fortunately this baby survived and now as a woman she is campaigning for anti abortion laws to be brought in.
So, what are your views on abortion?
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Nurse Stabbed on way To KH/Manchester UK
by Latte inhttp://www.manchesteronline.co.uk/men/news/s/189/189164_maniac_knifes_nurse_on_way_to_church.html.
poor girl!.
this is scary.scary that such a nasty character is still on the loose!
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Ellie
While I do feel sorry for the poor girl, what an awful thing to happen to her, I can't help but feel that the article is written in such a way as to suggest that Jehovah saved her.