For many, simply disappearing off the Watchtower's radar isn't an option — not if they want to continue having relationships with Witness family and friends.
Fading
Many Witnesses who become atheists must "fade" from the congregation to avoid drawing too much attention to themselves. Fading is when a Witness gradually becomes less and less active within the congregation over a long period of time. Many atheists can take years to fade successfully, hoping that the Elders in their congregation will be too busy with other concerns to take notice. Their families will notice sooner or later, but it's the Elders who have the power to disfellowship them. So long as the atheist isn't officially disfellowshipped and don't openly disparage the Watchtower's teachings, a relationship with their families is still possible.
To those who don't know any better, fading can seem like the cowardly approach. Some former Witnesses are lucky enough to have attended a less diligent congregation where they can simply disappear without going before a Judicial Committee. Others are simply willing to sacrifice all former relationships and go it alone in the world. Some proselytes who don't have Witness relatives may find their families are pleased with the change. For the rest, fading — though a long and arduous process — can be their only option, even if it means they will be looked down upon by people who once respected them as Christians in good standing.
If you are a Jehovah's Witness with doubts about your religious beliefs, there is advice and suggestions about how to fade away from the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society or from other religious organizations with similar beliefs.
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BIG About.com on Dfing and "Fading"
by DannyHaszard inhttp:www.atheism.about.com/od/jehovahswitnesses/a/witnessfade.htm here we can comment at the article and file this for evidence value as about.com is considered expert witnesses http://atheism.about.com/b/a/069061.htm comment belowfrom jehovah's witness to atheist: how & why jehovah's witnesses fade from congregations7 hrs ago | about.com
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BIG About.com on Dfing and "Fading"
by DannyHaszard inhttp:www.atheism.about.com/od/jehovahswitnesses/a/witnessfade.htm here we can comment at the article and file this for evidence value as about.com is considered expert witnesses http://atheism.about.com/b/a/069061.htm comment belowfrom jehovah's witness to atheist: how & why jehovah's witnesses fade from congregations7 hrs ago | about.com
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http:www.atheism.about.com/od/jehovahswitnesses/a/WitnessFade.htm here We can comment at the article and file this for evidence value as About.com is considered expert witnesses http://atheism.about.com/b/a/069061.htm Comment below From Jehovah's Witness to Atheist: How & Why Jehovah's Witnesses Fade from Congregations 7 hrs ago | About.com
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E-watchman says Ray Franz is 'animalistic' LOL!
by yaddayadda inin a critique of 'captives of a concept', robert king accuses anyone who can't get past all of the watchtower society's 'obstacles' as animalistic and lacking spirituality, including don cameron and ray franz.
it's mindblowing how this bloke can consistently call the watchtower leaders liars, blind, false prophets, dishing up vomitous things, etc, yet continue to preach that they are still a 'faithful steward' uniquely appointed by christ.
so, while it is true that jehovahs witnesses have not come to know the judgment of jehovah, cameron is similarly captive to a concept; and hence, ignorant of jehovahs judgment.
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Whoa check this out he's at Wiki
Robert King (Jehovah's Witnesses) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
He is a former member of the Royal Oak, Michigan Congregation of Jehovah's Witnesses who was disfellowshipped (excommunicated) after starting the e-Watchman...
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E-watchman says Ray Franz is 'animalistic' LOL!
by yaddayadda inin a critique of 'captives of a concept', robert king accuses anyone who can't get past all of the watchtower society's 'obstacles' as animalistic and lacking spirituality, including don cameron and ray franz.
it's mindblowing how this bloke can consistently call the watchtower leaders liars, blind, false prophets, dishing up vomitous things, etc, yet continue to preach that they are still a 'faithful steward' uniquely appointed by christ.
so, while it is true that jehovahs witnesses have not come to know the judgment of jehovah, cameron is similarly captive to a concept; and hence, ignorant of jehovahs judgment.
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http://www.topix.net/forum/who/jehovahs-witnesses/T7BVE0UQ47B6RG2VF ewatchman has a lot of enimies sitting on the rebel fence
http://www.topix.net/forum/who/jehovahs-witnesses/TRQEN0KAALG9BT9KJ here too
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13-yr old girl writes: example of Witnesses lying
by Dogpatch ini get emails like this all the time.
some jw gets upset at the stuff on my site, and wanting to add more weight/shock value to what they say, they either mention in passing that they are "not one of jehovah's witnesses" or are a child.
this one claims to be a 13-yr old girl!
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Do they grow corn in Maine yes
about 2 miles away big farm,the dubs think I live in a shack in the woods cause i'm from Maine Bangor airport has the longest runway on the east coast and has everything else.
Oh,Steven King is native to Bangor Maine and lives about 1 mile away my girlfriend and I have see him about town acts like a regular guy.
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13-yr old girl writes: example of Witnesses lying
by Dogpatch ini get emails like this all the time.
some jw gets upset at the stuff on my site, and wanting to add more weight/shock value to what they say, they either mention in passing that they are "not one of jehovah's witnesses" or are a child.
this one claims to be a 13-yr old girl!
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Danny's latest fan mail
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13-yr old girl writes: example of Witnesses lying
by Dogpatch ini get emails like this all the time.
some jw gets upset at the stuff on my site, and wanting to add more weight/shock value to what they say, they either mention in passing that they are "not one of jehovah's witnesses" or are a child.
this one claims to be a 13-yr old girl!
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Filibuster with fallacies and factoids Anytime/anywhere JW's lose their position defending their Orwellian Watchtower cult they will stoop to personal attacks and will always "shoot the messenger".
Jehovah's Witnesses are psychopathic liars,with a supremacist attitude that the rest of us are dead meat at Armageddon so they don't need to be truthful with us inferiors who are gonna die anyway. What's a Jehovah's Witnesses troll?
It's pretty obvious, isn't it? They lie about their affiliation, but the buzzwords and phrasing give them away every time. He/she is a classic Jehovah's Witness psychopath troll who lies that he/she is really a JW so as to present a "non biased" "objective opinion" against exjw's and pick fights with them.Trolls who are really JW's saying that they aren't and don't support the JW belief system but pick fights hurl abuse at those who oppose the Watchtower.
JW R an abomination to the god who's name that U blaspheme "the truth is worth lying for" Jehovah's Witnesses are the 'perfect storm' of deception-in a word they are the cult of Innuendo -Danny Haszard Bangor Maine -
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JW dies refusing blood after Caesarean
by Gayle inhttp://search.japantimes.co.jp/cgi-bin/nn20070621b1.html.
thursday, june 21, 2007. .
jehovah's witness shuns blood, dies.
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Jehovah's Witnesses member dies after refusing blood transfusion Japan Today - Jun 19 3:02 PM OSAKA — A member of the Jehovah's Witnesses sect died recently after losing a lot of blood when giving birth by cesarean and refusing a blood transfusion, officials at Osaka Medical College revealed Tuesday. (Easy one step register please add your comments)
NATIONAL Jehovah's Witnesses member dies after refusing blood transfusion
Wednesday, June 20, 2007 at 07:01 EDT OSAKA — A member of the Jehovah's Witnesses sect died recently after losing a lot of blood when giving birth by cesarean and refusing a blood transfusion, officials at Osaka Medical College revealed Tuesday. The hospital said it had agreed with the woman before the surgery that it would not transfuse any blood to her. Although she bled copiously after delivering her child in May, doctors at the hospital only took steps to arrest the hemorrhage. She died several days later, according to the hospital. A hospital official said, "We briefed her about the danger involving the surgery and we repeatedly urged her family to accept a blood transfusion. But in the end we respected the patient's wishes." --------------------------------- NEWS article 2 Jehovah's Witness shuns blood, dies
The Japan Times, Japan - 10 hours ago
OSAKA (Kyodo) A member of the Jehovah's Witnesses died last month after giving birth by Caesarean section and refusing a blood transfusion, officials at ... -
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"Theocratic Warfare" - An Apostate Strategy?
by slimboyfat inwho here had ever heard of this so-called 'doctrine' of "theocratic warfare" when you were a jehovah's witness?
who has not heard of the so-called doctrine now that you are an apostate?
so why have witnesses never heard of 'doctrine', yet apostates seem to promote it as the last word on witness standards of honesty, integrity and decency?
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NEWS ARTICLE ON ALLEGED LYING IN COURT Second witness forgets, murder accused freed
Trinidad & Tobago Express, Trinidad and Tobago - 4 hours ago
At one point, McNicolls interrupted and said, " You said you were a Jehovah's Witness." To this Perry said yes and McNicolls added, "Well you better don't ...Second witness forgets, murder accused freed by Hayden Mill
Thursday, June 21st 2007
TWO murder accused who were never fingerprinted by the police were freed yesterday, after a second witness failed to "remember" what happened during the incident. Junior Joseph and Don Crichlow, both of Laventille Extension Road, Never Dirty, Morvant, were discharged of the May 5 murder of Jerome Batson. Cpl Andrew Lawrence of the Homicide Bureau of Investigations at Arouca charged the men for that murder. Jerome Batson, 22, a labourer of Coconut Drive, Morvant, was at his construction site at the Corner of Monroe Road and Second Street Extension in San Juan when he was shot several times. Deputy Director of Public Prosecutions Carla Brown-Antoine appeared for the State while attorney Richard Clarke-Wills defended the two men. Cody Perry, of Cosmos Street, Chaconia Avenue, Morvant, testified before Chief Magistrate at the Port of Spain Eighth Magistrate's Court yesterday. He repeatedly said he could not really remember what happened, even though he had given the police two statements. At one point, McNicolls interrupted and said, "You said you were a Jehovah's Witness." To this Perry said yes and McNicolls added, "Well you better don't let down your religion." Perry eventually told the court he no longer wanted to proceed with the matter. "Everything just turned upside down since this matter," he told Brown-Antoine. When asked to explain he said he had not worked since and his brother, Ferrance Perry, was locked up and he could not help him. Ferrance Perry, 23, who also lived at Cosmos Street, and Jason Batson, who is the 24-year-old brother of deceased Jerome Batson, are charged with the murder of Anthoney Barker. Barker, 22, a PH driver of Rosewood Avenue, Coconut Drive, Morvant, was found dead by his younger brother on May 7, two days after Jerome Batson was killed. He too was shot. Brown-Antoine told the court that in light of what Cody Perry had said, she could not ask him any more questions to carry the case further. She had to do the same thing on Monday when Brevell George, a construction worker of Mon Repos Road, Morvant, said he did not remember what happened with respect to Jerome Batson. When the Barker enquiry came up Monday, another witness, Marley Johnson, who is unemployed and from Rosewood Avenue, Coconut Drive, also said he could not remember what occurred. Brown-Antoine said then she needed to look at the completed file to see if the State could go further with that matter and it was put to Monday. Upon leaving the court, Crichlow said justice had prevailed, Jesus Christ was Lord and that God was great, so he knew justice would have prevailed. As for refusing to give his finger prints to the police, he smiled and said he knew nothing about that. -Hayden Millsdischarged: Don Crichlow, left, and Junior Joseph leave the Port of Spain Magistrates' Court yesterday. -
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WT BLOOD GUILT EXPOSED TO THE WORLD
by DannyHaszard inparents don't get a moral pass.
toronto star, canada - 3. even the discovery that their parents were devout jehovah's witnesses and is there any other kind of watchtower congregant?
raised only faint alarm ... rosie [email protected] the author.
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Jehovah's Witness shuns blood, dies
The Japan Times, Japan - 27 minutes ago
OSAKA (Kyodo) A member of the Jehovah's Witnesses died last month after giving birth by Caesarean section and refusing a blood transfusion, officials at ... ......We briefed her about the danger (before the surgery) and we repeatedly urged her family to accept a blood transfusion. But in the end we respected the patient's wishes," a hospital official said Tuesday. Jehovah's Witnesses' officials said the hospital acted appropriately in treating the woman in accordance with her wishes. Members of the denomination refuse blood transfusions as being against the Bible, citing the section in Leviticus that reads: "Whatsoever man . . . eats any manner of blood, I will cut him off from among his people