Ravyn,
Truly an amazing woman! The experiences you cite were horrendous. To currently be disabled and to have lost so very much due to a belief is beyond reason.
My heart goes out to you!
Cathy
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Should The Watchtower Be Blamed For Everything Bad Happening In Your Life??
by minimus inat times, i read some watctower apologists complain here that everyone blames the watchtower society for everything or anything negative in their lives.
sometimes, because of who is expressing this view, a few might jump on the bandwagon and attack the poster.
but i wonder whether or not we at times need to deal with our own negatives about ourselves.
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Ex-Bethelite Testifies About Spying In Watchtower World Headquarters
by fleet#44 inby paul blizard.
click for more at http://www.geocities.com/paulblizard/test.html it's not only going on but been expanded.
paul blizard writes .
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Wow I thought all witnesses were honest and upright.
Close your shades at night, never know who is watching you change your clothes.
Cathy
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What do you think of yourself?
by Lady Lee inok i have read how some of you percieve me.
kind - okcompassionate - okcaring - okstrong - oksweet - huh?.
most often we define ourselves by the way we are treated and how others label us.
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Ladylee,
Thank God for the age process. I earned every grey hair and wear them proudly or could it be I am to cheap to buy Miss Clairol?
The jury is still out on what I think of myself. I don't look in the mirror, don't have mirrors in the house now that the boys are gone.
When I pass over maybe by then I will have figured it out.
Cathy
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Dad flew home this morning
by Simon inmy dad has been over from canada for the past month and staying at our house.
it's been so good seeing him even though he's not in the best of health (he's not supposed to fly .
the kids have loved him being here and i was really choked after we said goodbye lastnight and our youngest, dylan, started crying saying he didn't want grandad to go home and insisting on sitting on my shoulders waving till the car was well out of sight.. they are both asking when they can go visit again.. i hate goodbyes and being separated from family by such a long distance.
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Simon,
Decisions decisions! I live 800 miles from my family. All my children live around me. The only thing I regret is that I didn't see my dad more often. I would send the kids down for the summer or go for a week or two every other year.
My dad and I talked everyday that I was able to be home. We would spend three hours at least twice a week getting caught up. I regret that I did not go spend time with him. I knew he was dieing and I also had responsiblities to my children. I was not allowed to move out of the state due to child custody. Spend time with those that love you and your children because children need to know there is more to life than their parents. Now that dad is gone I go once every three years. Reminds me, next year is coming to quickly.
Good luck.
Cathy
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Finish this sentence. I would become a jw only if.........
by micheal inthis should certainly bring some very interesting and humorous responses - so go for it.
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If a woman like Grace (Mouthy) was the head honcho. In doing so she put the the GB in cages where they were only allowed to read the same watchtower for years to come.
Cathy
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To Those With Ears to Hear...
by AGuest into that he said, "the reply is not yours to make; it is mine.
his reply was that, "have i not told them?
so, then i asked how it was that i was speaking directly to the father, and not to the son, as i usually do.
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Gumby,
I didn't take offense. Heck after the night I had I thought it was funny. At least it made me laugh.
I guess right now the only belief I really hold true is belief in myself. Pass a Texan Tea I need to relax.
Badolputtytat,
You are so right. Time and place for everything.
Cathy
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To Those With Ears to Hear...
by AGuest into that he said, "the reply is not yours to make; it is mine.
his reply was that, "have i not told them?
so, then i asked how it was that i was speaking directly to the father, and not to the son, as i usually do.
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"It will, however, leave me with no choice but to see you as among those who "weep" and "gnash their teeth" when they are told the truth. And if that is your choice... remember it is YOUR choice, and thus, so be it."
I read through all the posts even the silly ones. You made the comment I posted among some other comments in your thread. First: leave me no choice but to see you as among those who weep and gnash their teeth. Not sure that others weep and gnash their teeth but that is how you see it. Second: when they are told the truth? What truth? The truth that was rightfully your vision? The truth that you believe is the truth? This is what I was pointing out. The hate you saw while you were walking up to the head of the table and how they grew ugly out of hate for you? This was what I was referring to, nothing else.
As far as beliefs go, I don't believe in the same things that you do. As of right now I still have a couple of books to get through before I even begin to take up some form of faith. In other words all the facts have not been laid on the table for me to pick up my staff and follow blindly to any persons conception of the truth.
As far as Gumby's words who cares? Never get upset at something someone says. That is where he is at in his life. I am not the at the same place as Gumby and neither are you. We walk through this life alone. We fall or rise on our own merits.
I did not mean to belittle your thread. If you took it that way I do apologize.
Cathy
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Should The Watchtower Be Blamed For Everything Bad Happening In Your Life??
by minimus inat times, i read some watctower apologists complain here that everyone blames the watchtower society for everything or anything negative in their lives.
sometimes, because of who is expressing this view, a few might jump on the bandwagon and attack the poster.
but i wonder whether or not we at times need to deal with our own negatives about ourselves.
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Minimus,
I don't blame anything or anyone in my life. It is where i need to be and how I got here was also what I needed.
What I don't agree with in your statement is the school issue. Back in 1975 you were encouraged to spend the last days preaching as not to be found negligent, wanting in God's favor.
There were alot of us children back then who wanted to do other things. There was intelligence. Do you think because we were denied the privalege of going to college that we were dumb. Also your statement about some of us who didn't finish high school were not really smart enough to go to college, hey no loss there. Many of our families moved to where the need was great as the end was coming. We took to heart the counsel given from the GB. We did what we had to because we actually did love Jehovah and actually did believe in him. Our choices were limited and college was not to be mentioned because those that were going to college were the ones who's families were not considered strong anyway. Consider the source. Do what needs to be done, not what others are doing.
So in essence those that did not have the opportunity back then have it now. It is harder to go to college when you are taking care of children and working your ass off because you need to support them all because the end did not come. So we believed, so we were stupid?
We all did not live charmed lives with choices. Most of us have moved on and made better choices.
Cathy
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why I left
by teejay inabout ten years ago, i started doing research into the jw religion.
it took a personal event to make me want to do that for the first time in thirty years.
blindly believing what i was told wasn't working anymore.
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Nice post Teejay.
It is sad that hypocrisy reigns.
At least the Catholic church in Boston apologized for the pedophile priests.
Cathy
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Ass(Mule) Worshipping Hebrews
by Ravyn inass(mule) worshipping hebrews (highlighting mine).
"the womens encyclopedia of myths and secrets" by barbara g. walker, 1983, harper-collins publishing: .
the ass-god pales had an extensive cult throughout the ancient world.
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Rayvn great thread.
With so many Gods which one is right? Emmelda Marcos "Which shoes should I wear today."
Today I am going to choose between jackass, hardass, dumbass, smartass, kickass, horse's ass...
With all these choices I decided to go with dumbass, seeing my ex today. Yes I worship his smartass attitude because when I get done he look's like a horse's ass because of his jackass attitude that allows me to become the kickass woman I was always meant to be but never had the baal ass balls.
Just teasing. Time to not worry about what God I might worship because that would take away from my shoe shopping.
There are times I get tired of debating about which God is right, or which God is stronger. I am picking up my ball and going home.
Cathy