Posts by sir82

32

After the death of a spouse, how long did people wait to get remarried?

by RubaDub in

jw
friends

i was on the phone with a long-time friend from my original congregation north of new york city and she told me that the 'shit hit the fan' when a brother (long-time elder i know well) got remarried about 6 weeks after his wife died.. he was about 60 and his new wife (a pioneer that i also know) was about 50 and had never been married.. it became a huge issue when the co came.

due to all the talk and chatter in the congregation, he even included in one of his talks without naming names, that marriage is something sacred and that when and how people get married is a personal matter as long as it conforms to bible standards.. anyway, it shut everybody up.

any similar experiences in your current/former congregations?.

sir82

Speaking of marrying GB members....

I heard a few years back that whenever Sanderson (never married) was the guest speaker at an assembly, there was always a trail of single sisters trying to catch his attention.

It was just a rumor, but it sounded plausible. Imagine how many of those long-time pioneer "40 year old virgins" (50? more?) would want to jump to the front of the perks line and live as a JW princess. Wife of a GB member is about as high as a woman can go in the organization. Might even be worth putting up with a bald, obese, uneducated, sexually inexperienced dude like Sanderson.

Anyone else hear any Sanderson / single sister rumors?

6

English as a first language

by road to nowhere in

jw
friends

pronunciation is so hard.

the butchered word this time is scourge pronounced as skorj.

4 different people, maybe because the reader did it first.. these same ones also pronounce the w in sword.. a pet peeve of mine is blatantly not learning how to speak and pronounce the native tongue.

sir82

More than one Theocratic Ministry School overseer:

"Correct pronounciation is so important..."

32

confused with nowhere to turn

by Rebecca in

i'm 43 and a divorced mother of 2. in january 2019 i met the man i thought i could spend the rest of my life with.

we were happy and even though our relationship wasn't perfect (like all relationships) i thought we had a chance and were building a life together with our young kids.

background on me - i've been divorced since 2012 after 12 years of marriage.

sir82

Account #12.478 (I think, literally) over the past year of "I'm a female non-JW, I started dating a JW man, then he dumped me because he wants to be a JW again".

All 12,478 stories are virtually identical.

Not sure what it all means.

10

Annual Meeting 2019 - part one

by TheFadingAlbatros in

the jw.org organization looks every passing day more and more like a building firm made in usa:.

https://www.jw.org/en/library/videos/#en/mediaitems/studiofeatured/pub-jwb_202001_1_video.

sir82

To me, one of the interesting things was Losch. He gave the opening talk.

Just a few weeks before the annual meeting, at the Gilead graduation, he gave the talk on Armageddon date-setting, and how so many other people & groups had set dates which (obviously) were false, and the JWs had done that too (he specifically mentioned 1925 & 1975), but in that case, it wasn't really all that bad (so his argument went).

I noted in the thread covering that topic, that Losch "read the talk with all the warmth, feeling, and enthusiasm of a hostage reading his captor's statement at gunpoint." He was extraordinarily nervous, mispronouncing words, stumbling, stuttering - a complete mess.

In the GM opening talk, in contrast, he was far more animated, relaxed, and comfortable. As I noted in the other thread, he's never been a dynamic speaker, but by his standards, it was about as good as it gets.

I guess he really didn't like to have to discuss the WT's failures.

4

Watchtower's 144,000 logic Questioned

by Vanderhoven7 in

the watchtower september 1, 1951, in a wonderful article entitled “hated for his name”(pp518,519) describes the persecution and martyrdom of steadfast christians in the first 3 centuries ad.. “by the year (a.d.) 64 christianity was prominent throughout much of the roman empire, including the capital city rome itself.

their individual characteristics, form of worship and steadfast refusal to compromise thereon had madethe christians sure targets of hostility and ridicule.

that year, the tenth in the reign of emperor nero, rome was swept by a conflagration so great it is yet the object of poetry and legend....diocletian assumed the crown a.d. 284.. at first he seemed friendly to the christians, but in the year 303 he gave in to persuasion and opened the tenth persecution, probably the most ferocious of all.

sir82

how does the WTS know these were not real Christians?

Lack of knowledge has never stopped the WTS from publishing anything. They are quite happy to make $#!+ up if it supports their agenda.

40

Double Standards of the Watchtower

by Vanderhoven7 in

are you aware of any double standards promoted by the organization of jehovah's witnesses?

here a a few i am aware of:.

1. the wts equated joining the ymca with apostasy but felt free to join the un for 10 years (1991-2001).

sir82

JWs don't have leaders... just men who take the lead.

This one kills me every time.

Sometimes they are bold enough to put these two absurdly obviously contradictory lines in the same @#$%^& paragraph.

17

What the 2019 Service Report is really hiding

by BottleGate_ in

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mlwfeoq2514&feature=youtu.be.

sir82

JW's should outlive their "worldly" counterparts. After all, they don't smoke, take drugs,

OK

drink excessively,

What???

over eat,

WHAT???

Not sure what congregation you attended, but....

An awful lot of JWs could drink Karen Allen (Tibetan bar scene in "Raiders of the Lost Ark") under the table.

And the quickest way to commit suicide by "trampled to death"? On a Sunday afternoon, go to the Golden Trough, er, Golden Corral, and stand between a table of JWs and the buffet trough when a fresh cauldron of mac & cheese is put out.

Hoo boy - "don't drink excessively or overeat" - well, maybe in the Congo.

11

In 1 coordinated night, the congregation collapsed within 60 minutes

by BottleGate_ in

https://old.reddit.com/r/exjw/comments/ek8tt5/breaking_news_from_japan/.

from post.... "breaking news from japan ... actually quite extraordinary news.

just got off the phone to a good pimo friend in japan.

sir82

Sounds pretty incredible - hard to believe that out of 11 guys, not one decided to "remain loyal". I remain skeptical.

10

Moved into attic, so much for cellars

by road to nowhere in

i notice the friends are in an anne frank attic instead of a boarded up basement this time.. the giving to ones in need pic shows literature and bible, but no food or money.

sir82

Is there a bucket in the corner for a toilet?

Exactly what I was thinking - how long is that group planning to be shut up in there? Without ventilation?

If more than a couple of hours, there's going to be some smells that would make "torture by agents of Satan" likely the lesser of 2 evils.

23

Happy Alcoholic Jehovah's Witnesses

by The Bethelite in

jw
friends

for many years since the witness organization, after i have told people that i'm no longer a jehovah's witness, people would say "oh the religion were people are not allowed to drink!".

"no they drink alright.....they can't do much of anything else but they do drink!".

in fact the first place i ever got drunk was bethel.

sir82

HE WAS A MAJOR ALCOHOLIC. It actually was a big joke how much he drank. Died in his 90's, still an alcoholic.
Was anything ever done to him? Was he DF'd? Nope

Can't remember if it was an elder's school, or a meeting with a CO, but we once had an in-depth discussion on whether "being an alcoholic" was a DF offense.

Answer: Nope!

The Biblical injunction is against "drunkenness". "Alcoholism" is not mentioned in the Bible, so no problem, just so long as the alcoholic is not evidently impaired.

There was a whole 'nother section on the "Biblical definition of drunkenness" - basically, the scriptures from Proverbs about "seeing strange things" and having "wounds for no reason".

Conclusion - so long as you aren't stumbling drunk, hallucinating, or passed out, it's all good!

I $#!+ you not.

So, yeah, no surprise that there are tens if not hundreds of thousands of alcoholic JWs.