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  3/2020 WT Baptism Rigmarole

  by neat blue dog in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  remember those pesky scriptures about 'put faith in jesus and you will be saved' & 'getting baptized without delay'?

  well, in this time of the end ™ we know better, and the latest march 2020 study edition wt sums it all up:.

  before you can get baptized, there are a few other things you need to do.

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  sir82

  Hey! Now we know what Acts 8:37 says!

  Acts 8:36-38 in the current version of the Revised NWT:

  36 Now as they were going along the road, they came to a body of water, and the eunuch said: “Look! Here is water; what prevents me from getting baptized?” 37* —— 38 With that he commanded the chariot to halt, and both Philip and the eunuch went down into the water, and he baptized him.

  How it will appear in the 2021 Re-revised NWT:

  36 Now as they were going along the road, they came to a body of water, and the eunuch said: “Look! Here is water; what prevents me from getting baptized?” 37* [and Philip said unto him: "let the coordinator of the body of elders know that you want to get baptized. He will ask some elders to meet with you. They will review with you the basic Bible teachings that you have learned. They want to make sure that you understand those teachings and that you are aware of the importance of dedication and baptism. If they agree that you are ready, they will inform you that you can get baptized at the next assembly or convention"]. 38 With that he commanded the chariot to halt, and both Philip and the eunuch went down [to the local Kingdom Hall to begin the months-long process to see if the eunuch really qualified].
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  PIMI relative complains about convention venue.

  by joe134cd in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i have just got of the phone with a relative complaining about the convention venue.

  as far as my relative is concerned wt can do no wrong, so for him to say what he did it must of been bad.

  the venue where the convention was held was described to me as a “tin shed with no air conditioning”.

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  sir82

  Remind him that the information at given at the convention will appear in future issues of the Watchtower

  as it always has since they started having them.

  And the entire convention program is available via streaming, if he can convince some elder to give him the rights to view it.
  
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  Circus Assembly Jaw Dropper

  by Slidin Fast in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the co got on his hind legs for the public talk and repeated twice "tolerance promotes division".

  then backed it up by saying that if one group march for some right, another group will march for the opposite.. so jws are intolerant and proud of it.

  f@@@k me sideways.. may explain that the baptism tally was 0..

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  sir82

  That's been a more and more common theme in JW "literature" and assembly talks - tolerance (in the context of sexual orientation) is BAD, capital B, full stop.
  
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  After the death of a spouse, how long did people wait to get remarried?

  by RubaDub in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i was on the phone with a long-time friend from my original congregation north of new york city and she told me that the 'shit hit the fan' when a brother (long-time elder i know well) got remarried about 6 weeks after his wife died.. he was about 60 and his new wife (a pioneer that i also know) was about 50 and had never been married.. it became a huge issue when the co came.

  due to all the talk and chatter in the congregation, he even included in one of his talks without naming names, that marriage is something sacred and that when and how people get married is a personal matter as long as it conforms to bible standards.. anyway, it shut everybody up.

  any similar experiences in your current/former congregations?.

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  sir82

  Speaking of marrying GB members....

  I heard a few years back that whenever Sanderson (never married) was the guest speaker at an assembly, there was always a trail of single sisters trying to catch his attention.

  It was just a rumor, but it sounded plausible. Imagine how many of those long-time pioneer "40 year old virgins" (50? more?) would want to jump to the front of the perks line and live as a JW princess. Wife of a GB member is about as high as a woman can go in the organization. Might even be worth putting up with a bald, obese, uneducated, sexually inexperienced dude like Sanderson.

  Anyone else hear any Sanderson / single sister rumors?
  
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  English as a first language

  by road to nowhere in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  pronunciation is so hard.

  the butchered word this time is scourge pronounced as skorj.

  4 different people, maybe because the reader did it first.. these same ones also pronounce the w in sword.. a pet peeve of mine is blatantly not learning how to speak and pronounce the native tongue.

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  sir82

  More than one Theocratic Ministry School overseer:

  "Correct pronounciation is so important..."
  
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  confused with nowhere to turn

  by Rebecca in

  1. social
  2. relationships

  i'm 43 and a divorced mother of 2. in january 2019 i met the man i thought i could spend the rest of my life with.

  we were happy and even though our relationship wasn't perfect (like all relationships) i thought we had a chance and were building a life together with our young kids.

  background on me - i've been divorced since 2012 after 12 years of marriage.

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  Account #12.478 (I think, literally) over the past year of "I'm a female non-JW, I started dating a JW man, then he dumped me because he wants to be a JW again".

  All 12,478 stories are virtually identical.

  Not sure what it all means.
  
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  Annual Meeting 2019 - part one

  by TheFadingAlbatros in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the jw.org organization looks every passing day more and more like a building firm made in usa:.

  https://www.jw.org/en/library/videos/#en/mediaitems/studiofeatured/pub-jwb_202001_1_video.

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  sir82

  To me, one of the interesting things was Losch. He gave the opening talk.

  Just a few weeks before the annual meeting, at the Gilead graduation, he gave the talk on Armageddon date-setting, and how so many other people & groups had set dates which (obviously) were false, and the JWs had done that too (he specifically mentioned 1925 & 1975), but in that case, it wasn't really all that bad (so his argument went).
  

  I noted in the thread covering that topic, that Losch "read the talk with all the warmth, feeling, and enthusiasm of a hostage reading his captor's statement at gunpoint." He was extraordinarily nervous, mispronouncing words, stumbling, stuttering - a complete mess.

  In the GM opening talk, in contrast, he was far more animated, relaxed, and comfortable. As I noted in the other thread, he's never been a dynamic speaker, but by his standards, it was about as good as it gets.

  I guess he really didn't like to have to discuss the WT's failures.
  
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  Watchtower's 144,000 logic Questioned

  by Vanderhoven7 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  the watchtower september 1, 1951, in a wonderful article entitled “hated for his name”(pp518,519) describes the persecution and martyrdom of steadfast christians in the first 3 centuries ad.. “by the year (a.d.) 64 christianity was prominent throughout much of the roman empire, including the capital city rome itself.

  their individual characteristics, form of worship and steadfast refusal to compromise thereon had madethe christians sure targets of hostility and ridicule.

  that year, the tenth in the reign of emperor nero, rome was swept by a conflagration so great it is yet the object of poetry and legend....diocletian assumed the crown a.d. 284.. at first he seemed friendly to the christians, but in the year 303 he gave in to persuasion and opened the tenth persecution, probably the most ferocious of all.

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  how does the WTS know these were not real Christians?

  Lack of knowledge has never stopped the WTS from publishing anything. They are quite happy to make $#!+ up if it supports their agenda.
  
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  Double Standards of the Watchtower

  by Vanderhoven7 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  are you aware of any double standards promoted by the organization of jehovah's witnesses?

  here a a few i am aware of:.

  1. the wts equated joining the ymca with apostasy but felt free to join the un for 10 years (1991-2001).

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  sir82

  JWs don't have leaders... just men who take the lead.

  This one kills me every time.

  Sometimes they are bold enough to put these two absurdly obviously contradictory lines in the same @#$%^& paragraph.
  
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  What the 2019 Service Report is really hiding

  by BottleGate_ in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mlwfeoq2514&feature=youtu.be.

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  sir82

  JW's should outlive their "worldly" counterparts. After all, they don't smoke, take drugs,

  OK
  

  drink excessively,

  What???
  

  over eat,

  WHAT???
  

  Not sure what congregation you attended, but....

  An awful lot of JWs could drink Karen Allen (Tibetan bar scene in "Raiders of the Lost Ark") under the table.

  And the quickest way to commit suicide by "trampled to death"? On a Sunday afternoon, go to the Golden Trough, er, Golden Corral, and stand between a table of JWs and the buffet trough when a fresh cauldron of mac & cheese is put out.

  Hoo boy - "don't drink excessively or overeat" - well, maybe in the Congo.