Posts by sir82

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Just wanting confirmation on an unofficial JW experience

by joe134cd in

just wondering if anyone can confirm or deny this unofficial jw experience that my father received by email.

i’ve told him that it against wt rules to forward unofficial accounts.

but of course he just puts that down to apostate driven lies.

sir82

I've not heard that one, but it perfectly fits the pattern of dozens if not hundreds of other JW urban legends....

"A sister who cleans the house of the president of an African nation.....and a fine witness was given..."

"A brother happened to be sitting next to a famous Hollywood actor in an airport.....and a fine witness was given...."

"A sister sent an email to the CEO of a 'no blood transfusion' surgical hospital.....and a fine witness was given..."

And on and on. Just enough detail so it sounds plausible, but no names, dates, internet links...no verifiable claims at all.

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Do You Believe Polls Saying Trump Will Lose To Biden?

by minimus in

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friends

a new fox poll says biden is up by 12 percentage points.

of course, most other polls say trump will be trounced this time around.. do you think the polls might be right this time?

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sir82

Trump's campaign is exclusively focused on motivating his base.

But his base is shrinking.

https://news.gallup.com/poll/315734/party-preferences-swung-sharply-toward-democrats.aspx?utm_source=twitterbutton&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=sharing

Since January, Americans' party preferences have shifted dramatically in the Democratic Party's direction. What had been a two-percentage-point Republican advantage in U.S. party identification and leaning has become an 11-point Democratic advantage...

Four months before Election Day, Democrats appear to be as strong politically now as they were in 2018 when they reclaimed the majority in the House of Representatives and gained seven governorships they previously did not hold.

One can argue, maybe, that some persons don't want to self-identify as "Trump voters" when polled, but party affiliation is a different kettle of fish.

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Do You Believe Polls Saying Trump Will Lose To Biden?

by minimus in

jw
friends

a new fox poll says biden is up by 12 percentage points.

of course, most other polls say trump will be trounced this time around.. do you think the polls might be right this time?

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sir82

Today's bad news for team Trump:

https://poll.qu.edu/national/release-detail?ReleaseID=3666

Biden's lead is widening:

Registered voters back Biden over Trump 52 - 37 percent, according to a Quinnipiac (KWIN-uh-pea-ack) University national poll released today. This compares to a June 18th national poll when Biden led Trump 49 - 41 percent.
Independents are a key factor behind Biden's widening lead as they now back him 51 - 34 percent, while in June, independents were split with 43 percent for Biden and 40 percent for Trump.

Voters give President Trump a negative 36 - 60 percent job approval rating, a 6 point drop in his job approval compared to last month. In that June 18th poll, Trump had a negative 42 - 55 percent job approval rating. Trump's net job approval is his worst since August of 2017.

36% is about as low as he's ever been. Low 30's, McConnell starts writing "the talk". Below 30, he trudges over to the Oval Office to give it.

I'm going to need to come up with a different word, "brutal" doesn't begin to cover it.

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Interesting That in the Regional Convention They Are Asking for More Volunteers to Bethel

by RubaDub in

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friends

for those of us who could sit through the program so far, i did find it interesting that they are again asking for people to apply to bethel.. i happened to speak to a friend who called and asked him why they would do that.

his response was that, well, they need younger people there.. i guess once you are over 50 or something you are eligible to be sent out to pasture..

sir82

For some odd reason I thoroughly enjoy the name "Rubabud" far more than "Rubadub".

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Interesting That in the Regional Convention They Are Asking for More Volunteers to Bethel

by RubaDub in

jw
friends

for those of us who could sit through the program so far, i did find it interesting that they are again asking for people to apply to bethel.. i happened to speak to a friend who called and asked him why they would do that.

his response was that, well, they need younger people there.. i guess once you are over 50 or something you are eligible to be sent out to pasture..

sir82

Don't they have the place in complete & total shutdown? As in literally no one at all is permitted in or out (except, I guess, for food delivery & trash removal). And it seems it will be that way, based on their announcements to the congregations, for at the absolute bare minimum a full year more, more likely 2 or more years.

So how are all these new Bethel recruits going to actually, you know, enter the compound?

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Watchtower Sudy 12 July.the Kings of North & South (from 05/20 issue)

by BluesBrother in

it is a challenge next sunday for them .

due to starting the convention programme the wt study will be a 30 minute run through ,and deals with this prophecy ... i doubt the younger ones are familiar with it at all bur oldies could debate it at length .we on the look out for the king of the north to enter "the land of decoration" (more to follow,maybe next week).

this article makes a grand claim in par 2.

sir82

Don't forget the "Ships of Kittim"!

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Watchtower Sudy 12 July.the Kings of North & South (from 05/20 issue)

by BluesBrother in

it is a challenge next sunday for them .

due to starting the convention programme the wt study will be a 30 minute run through ,and deals with this prophecy ... i doubt the younger ones are familiar with it at all bur oldies could debate it at length .we on the look out for the king of the north to enter "the land of decoration" (more to follow,maybe next week).

this article makes a grand claim in par 2.

sir82

initial ancient fulfillment

Wasn't that all those ancient Egyptian, Greek, & Roman rulers? Seleucus, Ptolemy, Cleopatra, Augustus, etc.

That's like 2 whole chapters in the 1999 "Pay Attention to Daniel's Prophecy" book.

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Watchtower Sudy 12 July.the Kings of North & South (from 05/20 issue)

by BluesBrother in

it is a challenge next sunday for them .

due to starting the convention programme the wt study will be a 30 minute run through ,and deals with this prophecy ... i doubt the younger ones are familiar with it at all bur oldies could debate it at length .we on the look out for the king of the north to enter "the land of decoration" (more to follow,maybe next week).

this article makes a grand claim in par 2.

sir82

Good question.

Obviously they think this is one of those "special instances", but they don't explain why.

One can speculate of course. The whole "KOTN / KOTS" hoo-ha supposedly leads right up to the "cry of peace and security" which in theory starts the "great tribulation".

Take away the KOTN / KOTS folderol and that "cry" might be 6 months or 6 years or 6 decades away. But if you say "Ooooh, looky here, we've got a King of the North again" then it seems the GT could be "imminent".

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Do You Believe Polls Saying Trump Will Lose To Biden?

by minimus in

jw
friends

a new fox poll says biden is up by 12 percentage points.

of course, most other polls say trump will be trounced this time around.. do you think the polls might be right this time?

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sir82

For the record, I'm not "supporting" any candidate on this thread, just reporting the polling results. I'll save my opinions for elsewhere.

As noted, (1) the polls are currently brutal for Trump, (2) they've been brutal for the past several months, and (3) Trump is doing nothing (that I can see) to win over the 6-10% of voters (per state) he's lost since 2016.

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Do You Believe Polls Saying Trump Will Lose To Biden?

by minimus in

jw
friends

a new fox poll says biden is up by 12 percentage points.

of course, most other polls say trump will be trounced this time around.. do you think the polls might be right this time?

.

sir82

Those final poll results were just about spot-on...for the popular vote. Clinton won by about 2% in 2016.

Of course, at the risk of repeating myself for the 100th time, elections are not decided by the popular vote totals, rather by the Electoral College.

The latest polls show Trump getting trounced not only by the popular vote, but in every state Trump won by less than 4%.

Michigan: 2016 Trump + 0.3% vs. July 2020 polling Trump -9.4 % Net loss: 9.7%

Wisconsin: 2016 Trump + 1.0% vs. July 2020 polling Trump - 7.8% Net loss 8.8%

Pennsylvania: 2016 Trump + 1.2% vs. July 2020 polling Trump - 7.3% Net loss 8.5%

Florida: 2016 Trump + 1.2% vs. July 2020 polling Trump - 6.0% Net loss 7.2%

North Carolina: 2016 Trump + 3.8% vs. July 2020 polling Trump - 3.2% Net loss 7.0%

Arizona: 2016 Trump + 3.9% vs. July 2020 polling Trump -2.2% Net loss 6.1%

Brutal.

If Trump loses 3 or more of those states, game over.

Not to mention, as noted earlier, Georgia, iowa, even fer the luv of gawd Texas appear now to be in play. Biden is actually running campaign ads in Texas where Trump won by 9% in 2016.

As I've added with every such post: It's early, 3.5 months is an eternity in campaigns, anything can happen.....but Trump appears to be doing his level best to alienate everybody not already committed to voting for him. It's hard to imagine the numbers above getting better for him.

And, as noted earlier, he will be dragging the Senate & House down with him.

At what point does McConnell have "the talk" with him?