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  JW's and the National Anthem/Flag

  by Anony Mous in

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  one thing we were always taught in the past is how we should sit down and pray (kneel) to jehoober whenever we were at an event where they played the national anthem.

  we had to actively disrespect the flag and anthem and be no part of the world, because we were our own country with jesus as king.. given kneeling/sitting for the national anthem is now the favorite pastime of the far-left and if you do so, you get associated with democrats, how do jehovah's witnesses now 'become no part of this world' when they have to disrespect the flag?.

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  I was always embarrassed by the "remain seated during the national anthem" JW dictate.

  My parents were folks who never like to draw attention to themselves, so they taught me this clever workaround for sporting events: A few minutes before the anthem is to be played, take a walk to the bathroom. If they still haven't finished by the time you are done, just hang out in the walkway below the seats until they have finished, then walk back to your seat.

  Of the dozens of MLB games I have attended over the years, I don't think I ever saw the first pitch of the game from my seat.
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  No more hour requirements for pioneers

  by solomon in

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  it was announced at the meeting.

  do what you are able to because of covid.. i think i should sign up as i’m able to meet the hour requirements.

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  Not a permanent change, but "until further notice".

  However, I don't see door-to-door work resuming for at the absolute minimum another year, more realistically, 2, 3, or even more years into the future.

  So, yeah, if you ever wanted the title "pioneer" but dreaded the idea of, you know, pioneering, now is the time!
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  Mandatory Donations??? Is This Accurate?

  by Atlantis in

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  does the information about mandatory donations in this post sound accurate to you?.

  https://www.reddit.com/r/exjw/comments/i1gews/new_letter_1000_donations_are_mandatory_now/ petra!

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  sir82

  $8.50 per publisher and 8.6 million publishers worldwide

  $8.50 per month is the amount for the USA. The amounts are different, usually much less, than for other countries.

  And these are "suggested" amounts, Some congregations will pay less, and some will pay more.

  And has been noted earlier on this thread, these amounts go toward covering CO expenses and Kingdom Hall liability coverage expenses. These amounts have been collected in a similar manner for 15-20 years or more.

  All that said.....yes, it's a big chunk of change going into the WTS coffers every month. But it is certainly nothing new.
  
  
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  And this isn't a cult? Wife put on name tag for zoom assembly

  by goingthruthemotions in

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  2. experiences

  and this isn't a cult?

  just saw my wife put on her name tag for the zoom assembly.... what the what?

  i thought these things werent even live.

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  Maybe a necktie keeps the holy spirit from escaping
  Very funny! So how do the sisters keep it from getting away?

  That's what the doily / napkin / head covering is for!
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  And this isn't a cult? Wife put on name tag for zoom assembly

  by goingthruthemotions in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  and this isn't a cult?

  just saw my wife put on her name tag for the zoom assembly.... what the what?

  i thought these things werent even live.

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  Devil's advocate here.

  There has been a $#!+ - ton of pressure, anxiety, concern, worry, and just general weirdness going on for about 5 months now.

  Maybe putting on the lapel card allows her to feel a little more "normal" for a bit, even though (obviously) no one at all, besides you, is going to see it. Embracing the familiar can be a coping mechanism. She remembers feeling good wearing her card at past assemblies, wearing it now helps her stay connected to "the way things were".

  I think people are starting to figure out that things won't return to "normal" for years, probably many years.

  Before we even get back to 50% normal we're all going to have to figure out some sort of coping mechanism.
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  New Disfellowshipping Procedure

  by Anna Marina in

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  disfellowship but never, ever announce it.. this new procedure is to be confirmed - anyone else come across it?.

  for this record these are jesus' actual instructions in relation to this matter:-.

  (matthew 18:15-17) 15 “moreover, if your brother commits a sin, go lay bare his fault between you and him alone.

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  That would be just plain weird.

  As in the case with certain political actions, the cruelty is the point.

  If it's not announced, it's not as cruel.

  I've not heard anything about this, sounds like another wild unsubstantiated rumor that sprang from the head of someone with too much time on their hands.
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  Trump suggests postponing the elections ... I'm not making this up

  by RubaDub in

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  elections have been held per the us constitution during many difficult times; us civil war, ww i, ww ii, whatever.

  i just put on the pro-trump fox news and even they are saying ... oooohhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.. this is really scary.

  are we headed towards a dictatorship?

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  More evidence of late July internal polling disaster for team Trump:

  https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/30/politics/trump-campaign-halt-advertisements/index.html?utm_source=twCNNp&utm_content=2020-07-31T00%3A43%3A05&utm_medium=social&utm_term=image

  President Donald Trump's campaign has canceled a series of advertisement buys over the next few days as they review their messaging strategy, a senior campaign official told CNN.

  They've seen the numbers showing that what they've been doing up to now hasn't been working, so they are flailing about trying to find a message that simultaneously keeps their base fired up & loyal yet still draws in independents & Trumpist voters who have fallen away.

  Personally, I don't think such a message can even exist, but let's see what they come up with.
  
  
  
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  Trump suggests postponing the elections ... I'm not making this up

  by RubaDub in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  elections have been held per the us constitution during many difficult times; us civil war, ww i, ww ii, whatever.

  i just put on the pro-trump fox news and even they are saying ... oooohhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.. this is really scary.

  are we headed towards a dictatorship?

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  Not joking - distracting by saying something so outrageously stupid that people talk about "that outrageously stupid thing he said" instead of talking about 150,000 dead Americans due to Covid, the tanking economy, millions unemployed, Russian bounties on American troops, etc.
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  Trump suggests postponing the elections ... I'm not making this up

  by RubaDub in

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  elections have been held per the us constitution during many difficult times; us civil war, ww i, ww ii, whatever.

  i just put on the pro-trump fox news and even they are saying ... oooohhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.. this is really scary.

  are we headed towards a dictatorship?

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  How would they be able to do that as you suggest ?

  How does anybody start a media network? Do your market research & pour in lots of $$$.

  OANN is one of the latest ones. Started up in 2013, rose to prominence when Trump started bashing FNC.

  OANN compares to Fox as Fox compares to MSNBC.
  
  
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  The Black Goat in the JW Covid-19 Report - 2020 Governing Body Update #5

  by Oh-my-God in

  1. watchtower
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  did you notice this?

  2020 governing body update #5. https://www.jw.org/en/library/videos/#en/mediaitems/latestvideos/docid-702020307_1_video.

  why do they show the black goat in the picture?

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  Additionally, if you look at the picture on the wall behind the GB member, you will see a hand with five fingers. The thumb cannot be seen which would make six fingers.

  Yeesh! That just doubles the freakiness.

  This is from the guys that put rich symbolic meaning into every corner of every drawing or photo used in every Watchtower study (and expect the WT study conductor to draw out every nuance from every photo during the study).

  Again, I think the occult insinuations are a bit out there, but still....why intentionally & prominently display a giant black goat ibex head and an image of a six-fingered man?