Posts by sir82

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JW Response to COVID

by optimisticskeptic in

i haven't been on here in quite some time so i apologize if i missed a similar thread already (i did look for one :) ) anyways, just to be clear i think the jw response to covid in general has been really positive and proactive and they've done really well trying to educate people on covid, doing zoom meetings, etc to prevent spread within the congregations.

the part that i find interesting is how compliant and non-apocalyptic the branch has been during all of this.

even as someone who's a bit of a skeptic i found myself wondering if this might be the beginning of the end between covid, economic upheaval, and blm.

sir82

Oh I agree with you, but they can continue fantasizing that they are "God's channel" and "Christ's viceregent" while squirreled away in a lakeside compound and shooting out videos every couple of weeks.

But...

They can't feel the drug-like rush of "life or death" power of [to-disfellowship-or-not-to-disfellowship] remotely. All JW judical meetings are to be "held in abatement" per GB directive until it is possible to meet in person at a Kingdom Hall. They have a pathological need to know they are in control, they need to feel it. If no one can be disfellowshipped, that need is not being met.

They also can't feel the adrenaline rush and ego boost of having 10,000 or 50,000 or 100,000 adoring adherents hanging on their every word at a convention, then bursting into long rapturous applause, then seeing the hours-long greeting line of swooning JWs who just want to touch the fringe of their outer ill-fitting garments....

Eventually those primal desires will drive them to return to "normalcy" as soon as they can do so without appearing to be stupid or careless.

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JW Response to COVID

by optimisticskeptic in

i haven't been on here in quite some time so i apologize if i missed a similar thread already (i did look for one :) ) anyways, just to be clear i think the jw response to covid in general has been really positive and proactive and they've done really well trying to educate people on covid, doing zoom meetings, etc to prevent spread within the congregations.

the part that i find interesting is how compliant and non-apocalyptic the branch has been during all of this.

even as someone who's a bit of a skeptic i found myself wondering if this might be the beginning of the end between covid, economic upheaval, and blm.

sir82

The latest broadcast message from Anthony McCallan, er, Morris, insinuates that Zoom meetings will continue for another full year, minimum, and he drops the possibility it could extend even longer (he specifically mentions "2021 or even beyond").

That's 1-2 years, or maybe even longer, of electronic meetings and no door-to-door or cart witnessing.

I think financially they could continue this model indefinitely, but they aren't in it just for the money. More valuable to them is the control the exercise over, and the adulation they receive from, their adherents.

You can't get that with no elder visits and no meetings at a central location, so eventually they will return to something like they did before. The questions will be (1) how many of the post-COVID changes will stick as permanent and (2) how do you motivate JWs used to years of "letter writing in your pajamas" counting as "field service" to get back to dressing up and trudging around to knock at empty houses while either staining their dress clothes with sweat or subjecting their toes to frostbite?

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Aunt Jemima and Mrs.Buttersworth Need To Be Destroyed!

by minimus in

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we have to get rid of these racist relics.

i propose that we destroy all these bottles of syrups and burn every pancake box !

we need to get rid of anything that reminds us of anything negative concerning slavery.. in boston they decapitated the head of christopher columbus and got rid of his statue.

sir82

Ah, so we were supposed to take that post "seriously" and not "literally"? Got it.

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Aunt Jemima and Mrs.Buttersworth Need To Be Destroyed!

by minimus in

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friends

we have to get rid of these racist relics.

i propose that we destroy all these bottles of syrups and burn every pancake box !

we need to get rid of anything that reminds us of anything negative concerning slavery.. in boston they decapitated the head of christopher columbus and got rid of his statue.

sir82

So “Swing Low, Sweet Chariot”....now to be banned.

Odd that you didn't post the follow-up tweet from the same person:

this is a proposal being considered by the game’s official governing body,the Rugby Football Uniin.

So an English sports league is proposing this.

it's about the democratic left covering up it's own racist past so they can deny it.

Help me out here, I can't connect the dots. Is the "Rugby Football Union" a proxy for "the democratic left"? I don't see how a Rugby league is tied to the US Democratic party.

The post copy-pasting the tweet, without context or follow-up, make it sound like "the democratic left" has issued a "ban" on a song, when in reality a private corporation is "undertaking a review into [its] historical context".

https://www.planetrugby.com/rfu-to-review-slave-song-swing-low-sweet-chariot/

For someone who constantly gripes about "fake news" and misleading out-of-context snippets, this sure seems like an odd post.

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Gerrit Loesch video from this week's meeting

by neat blue dog in

he talks about how a group of 5,000 broke away from the organization due to distrust of government agents infiltrating the jws.

they weren't regarded as apostates, just distrustful.

he uses phrases like "their leader" and "his elders", and how they had a meeting with the governing body and made the decision for all these thousands to reintegrate them into the jws, splitting them up among congregations.

sir82

Not all of the Romanian breakaways decided to return:

https://www.reddit.com/r/JehovahsWitnesses/comments/9hymcy/tfjw/

Odd, wonder why Losch decided not to talk about them?

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Things are too quiet at Warwick (Bethel)

by RubaDub in

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i guess it's the covid-19 thing.

but very little news from a couple of people i know well there.

they can't leave the "compound" or much of anything else.

sir82

I've heard they can't socialize inside either - can't visit other couples' rooms, can't get together in groups. Maybe they can walk around outside if socially distant, not really sure about that.

That's gotta be driving them crazy.

being this way until possibly September or October.

That's probably right about when the 2nd wave begins.

Or, what seems increasingly likely, there will be no "2nd wave" - there are so many nitwits endangering their own lives and the lives of others that it's just going to be one long, continuous wave.

In any event, I don't see Bethel returning to "normal" for at least a year, probably longer.

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CO'S "encouraging" letter to circuit

by nowwhat? in

the point of the letter was how many are feeling disappointed these days.. no circuit assembly, convention, how we can't fellowship at the k.h.

disappointed we might have had a love one die, etc etc.

he then goes on to write about how disappointed jehovah must have felt when his first human creation rebelled.

sir82

Door to door field serve-us almost certainly won't resume this year, and frankly next year looks rather iffy as well.

It's going to be dang-near impossible to motivate JWs to get out and knock on doors again when it is finally relatively safe enough to do so.

Can't wait for the "encouraging" letters when that day comes!

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Covid-19 Texas cases spike following George Floyd funeral

by FatFreek 2005 in

on tuesday, the george floyd funeral took place.. "on wednesday, texas reported its highest single-day increase in diagnoses since the start of the pandemic, with 2,504 new cases, more than twice as many reported the previous day.

" source, newsweek.com.

just my unprofessional take -- some 30 to 40 percent of attendees did not wear masks.. check for yourself, snippets of video footage, george floyd funeral..

sir82

@FedUpJW ...
I say go for it.

I would be tempted to agree, but how many people will he infect and possibly kill before he himself keels over?

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Covid-19 Texas cases spike following George Floyd funeral

by FatFreek 2005 in

on tuesday, the george floyd funeral took place.. "on wednesday, texas reported its highest single-day increase in diagnoses since the start of the pandemic, with 2,504 new cases, more than twice as many reported the previous day.

" source, newsweek.com.

just my unprofessional take -- some 30 to 40 percent of attendees did not wear masks.. check for yourself, snippets of video footage, george floyd funeral..

sir82

I assume you didn't know that symptoms for COVID-19 take anywhere from 2-14 days to appear, rather than just one day.

There will likely be a spike from the funeral, but it will probably occur next week or even the week after.

This week's spike is probably, almost certainly, a result of people mixing in public far more than usual over Memorial day weekend.

It's not rocket science folks. Wear a mask.

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“White Privilege”

by minimus in

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lately that’s all i’ve been hearing about!

i’m sick and tired of listening to white people begging for forgiveness simply because they are white.

in a nearby town, a six year old girl asked her mom, “ why don’t we have a black lives matter march here?

sir82

it may be time for a new civil war.

Make sure you build some cannon factories. Maybe next time y'all can win!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S72nI4Ex_E0