Posts by PaulJ

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Chaperones

by Gretchen956 in

richie's thread got me wondering what ever happened to the practice of chaperoning???

i mean really, was this just a regional thing where i grew up?

we had to have a chaperone always with the opposite gender even if we were old!

PaulJ

I vaigley remember this as well. What was it all about? I remember feeling weird that JW's were on the telly. Can you remember what it was called?

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Chaperones

by Gretchen956 in

richie's thread got me wondering what ever happened to the practice of chaperoning???

i mean really, was this just a regional thing where i grew up?

we had to have a chaperone always with the opposite gender even if we were old!

PaulJ

HillBilly has a valid point. With many JW 'courting' couples having sex before marriage anyway, surely chaperones are a good way to experiment by having a threesome. It might work for some anyway....

Saying that I dont intend on twisting this thread to something inappropriate. My apologies.

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towards the end of my time as a jw, i must confess to cheating whilst out on field service.. 1. i would turn up at the field service arrangement with my wife, and we would say that we were working together that day to do return visits.

as everyone went out, we would simply get into our car and drive home.

(hypocritical i know).

PaulJ

Thanks for your comments Defd. I realised that I could go on and on in that condition, always being made to feel guilty or decide that the relationship I had with God didnt need to be influenced by the organisation. I left very downhearted and convinced I let jehovah, my family and myself down and that at any moment I would die at armageddon.

Then I found this site and learnt a lot about the organisation that claimed to represent Gods earthly kingdom. I realised that there was no-way God could allow the things they are doing and saying IN HIS NAME. I decided to develop my relationship with him on my own, I mean that it is between me and God, not with men asking me to show how much I worship him by knocking on doors, attending meetings and answering up for them.

I truly belive leaveing was the best thing for my spirituality, and the burden of guilt no longer sits on my shoulders.

PaulJ

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They have found me! (At last)

by PaulJ in

i've just had a telephone conversation with my wife about 1/2 an hour ago.

we have had a visit from the local jw's this morning.

from the upstairs window my wife conducted a brief conversation where she basically told them thst she wasnt the best person to speak to, as her husband used to be a jw.

PaulJ

Ian

You've given me a lot to think about. In the back of my mind I had planned to talk to them about NGO's/UN, Mexico/Malawi, but its pointless really as even with cold hard evidence in front of them, they will simply think its some clever satanic deliberation.

I might just say question their refusal to truly research matters for themselves. But not go beyond that.

Hhmmmm

Thanks for the advice.

PaulJ

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CHEATING ON FIELD SERVICE

by chuckyy in

towards the end of my time as a jw, i must confess to cheating whilst out on field service.. 1. i would turn up at the field service arrangement with my wife, and we would say that we were working together that day to do return visits.

as everyone went out, we would simply get into our car and drive home.

(hypocritical i know).

PaulJ

Defd. I left 3 years ago now. I needed help on the f/s and my marriage was having problems. I couldnt cope with all life was throwing at me, including aspects of the truth. This of course makes it worse because I had a lot of guilt to deal with, as I felt I was letting Jehovah down by not complying as I'd like to.

Any elder hearing that would encourage me to ask for a shepherding visit in which I could be helped and encouraged. Perhaps it could be arranged for someone to help me get out on the ministry. So I did, and I prayed about it- a lot. Then I asked an elder to visit, and again and again and again. You know what I asked every meeting attended for months on end.... but we didnt have one elder come to see us. We didnt even get a phone call. Not a sausage, despite my begging.

In my DA'ing letter I described myself as a sheep calling/bleating for help from the bottom of a big hole. Why would a true shepherd leave a sheep in the hole? Or would he get muddy and put himself in the hole in order to get the sheep out?

So, did I not pray hard enough? Was it not Jehovahs will that I go on the ministry? Or was I let down by the spirit-led organisation I had dedicated my life to?

I have to say that now I have left my relationship with God is better than it has ever been.

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They have found me! (At last)

by PaulJ in

i've just had a telephone conversation with my wife about 1/2 an hour ago.

we have had a visit from the local jw's this morning.

from the upstairs window my wife conducted a brief conversation where she basically told them thst she wasnt the best person to speak to, as her husband used to be a jw.

PaulJ

Yes, I have moved area (I should have explained that) and I DA'd myself 3 years ago now.

I dont give a hoot what they think or what they do. I wouldnt be against a visit from them either. My basic premis is that I no longer want to be affiliated to an organisation that is as hypocritical and unchristian as they are. I have a number of examples and arguments that they really wont want to hear.

I truly feel that I'm the free one, they are the conditioned, brainwashed ones that I feel sorry for.

Thanks for the info tho, I'm sure I'll need it soon enough.

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CHEATING ON FIELD SERVICE

by chuckyy in

towards the end of my time as a jw, i must confess to cheating whilst out on field service.. 1. i would turn up at the field service arrangement with my wife, and we would say that we were working together that day to do return visits.

as everyone went out, we would simply get into our car and drive home.

(hypocritical i know).

PaulJ

Defd. Good point from a JW perspective but that doesnt and never will Elders etc being judgemental towards ones that do not do enough in their eyes.

I truly did whatever I could, more in fact at times. With a 12-hr a day full time job and 3 children, no car in an area with terrible public transport I still made it out on the ministry as much as I could. It came to a point where I had a nervous breakdown not being able to juggle all my responsibilities. If in a month i didnt make the 'congregational average' am i to blame for not 'making time'? Now who judges me from day to day? Who do I get feedback from despite the problems I had? The elders- NOT Jehovah.

An arguement might be that Jehovah will right things that are wrong. Perhaps he will make the elders 'see' my efforts. That didnt happen at all, not once in the time I was in that situation.

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