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  Are JWs more tight with money than normal people?

  by Julia Orwell in

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  actually, in my experience, i have not found them to be tighter or more generous with money.

  i've found them to be about the same with handling money as non-jws, though less likely to invest their money, but unlikely to waste it on cigarettes, pubs/clubs and gambling like many non-jws do.

  i certainly don't find them tighter or stingier than normal people though, and slightly more honest.. what are your experiences with jws and money compared to non-jws and money?.

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  Actually, in my experience, I have not found them to be tighter or more generous with money. I've found them to be about the same with handling money as non-Jws

  Which is interesting considering jws proudly state they are followers of christ and his disciples who eschewed material possessions and material aspirations. Actually I recall one (haughty) elder telling me that he chose servants and elders who were "successful" in business as in his opinion were better organisers. At that time, every servant and elder on his team were pulling dodgy business pratices. I mean every (including himself). Yes it was a loveless, judicial congregation.

  I look back now after years of experience and study an realise that he had obsessive compulsive disorder. At the dinner table he would get incredibly distressed if the siverware wasn't in the correct order and as far as washing hands... Anyhow I digress.
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  Accepting my own mortality, and the naturalness of death - the final step in my JW recovery.

  by fresh prince of ohio in

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  for people who have a paralyzing fear of dying, to where it seems like it's this horrible, stalking monster, jwism is a powerful sedative.. but really, the idea of living forever, in human form, is nonsense.

  living forever isn't about living forever, it's about not dying.. death is natural.

  it can be painful, sudden, or both.

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  Welcome Bruja-del-Sol. Greetings from sunny Australia.

  Death, inevitable but not something I look forward too! If I get a terminal illness I will plan my exit. Euthanasia should be a legal option for all.
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  The New New World Translation: What a Blessing!

  by breakfast of champions in

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  2. bible

  this new new world translation just puts god's holy word in a whole new new light for me!

  just check out this comparison, and add some of your own if you wish!.

  numbers 31: 17, 18 old new world translation.

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  I think the meaning is fairly obvious considering virgin boys were to be slaughtered....
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  Where Do You NOW Think Wickedness Comes From? The Devil or... ?

  by LoisLane looking for Superman in

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  i think wickedness comes from evil people.. there are many people in between the two extremes of, overly good people and overly evil persons.. i do not believe in a devil.. i think he is a concept dreampt up by evil ones to blame bad behavior, as a red herring, on anyone but themselves.. the watchtower makes up attrocious lies, brow beats good people not to better themselves,.

  all the while, they are building their own empire.. they say, do not isiolate yourself.

  it is not good for you.. but if you don't agree with them and their current teachings, you will be shunned, disfellowshipped.. that can and does, have earth shattering results.. so many things, i was taught as a born in, are now considered apostate teachings.

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  Following on from Coco's comment, "wickedness" is in the eye of the beholder e.g. female cicumcision is considered wicked in the West (generally) but in some Islamic countries it is wicked NOT to be circumcised. Weeding out superstition is a great start. Basically though, we are our own gods. We have the ability to perform acts with positive or negative outcomes. When humans finally realise that we don't need spiritual mothers and fathers, gods and goddesses and that we ultimately are responsible for how our lives and in fact the planet turn out.
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  Has The Society, or Any Bro or Sis, Ever Screwed You Out Of Your Money?

  by LoisLane looking for Superman in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  this thread was inspired because of 3rdgn, and her asking, on behalf of her destitute elderly widowed mom,.

  for the return of her mother's "conditional loan" to the society of $20,000.00.. (this was stated today, under my thread of, "what was the effect on you of knowing hypocritical jw's?").

  the society more or less yes, no, it is now our money, and you can't have it back.

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  I have to be careful as this is still fresh out of the courts but a jw I knew started a coffee shop (and deliveries) which became very successful. She moved in with an elder and his wife and she eventually offered them a partnership (yes she is very generous). Later after moving in to her own apartment her accountant contacted telling her that the business couldn't pay its bills and yes on enquiry the elder and his wife had been charging the business for their expensive lifestyle, including cars etc! When confronted they hit the roof, so she just worked harder and the business died and she lost all including her apartment. Finally she broke, left the jws, got legal advice and took them to court. Suffice to say, the lawyers won but no resolution. It was made clear in the court that they had embezelled the business but he is still an elder. Allegedly this couple are disliked in the cong and most are aware of their behaviour (this isn't the first time shady business deals have gone down). She's broken...
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  Fiji Bethel Scandal

  by Mattieu in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  does anyone remember the scandal that rocked fiji in appx early 1992?

  i have searched this site and found no reference to it.

  so, hoping someone here might remember the finer details and whatever happened to the guilty culprits....... my best mate was in the australian bethel at the time, and on a trip back home to melbourne he caught up with me and told me most of the details.

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  Geez FTS you brought back some memories. For the life of me I can't remember the guys name but he was a missionary in New Guinea and Indonesia and he was on the Lightbearer. I wish now that I had asked him more about those old days. I remember him telling a story about a cong servant who had secretly kept up his ancestor worship. No one believed his wife until he got "possessed" and was running through the jungle ( with a green light over his head, the missionary saw it!) pulling out banana trees in a frenzy!! Another time he was crossing a river and a local brother said if you touch that rock you will have twins. Two pioneers rubbed the rock for a joke and both had twins... I think the biggest and most faith shaking experience for him was seeing a dead person rise up under the guidance of a Hindu priest and walk in Bali! Looking back, despite him being an elder etc I wonder if he really believed the Watchtower society and that he just hung in due to putting in so many years. He was a gentle soul who never hassled or hammered anyone. Yes he would be long dead I'm sure.
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  OMG Have you seen this?? This site is sooo hysterical. It reminds me of The Onion, but for exJW's

  by noni1974 in

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  http://jehovahstrumpet.com.

  i read the cat baptisim article and i doubled over laughing.

  one time when i was a kid i asked why my kitty couldn't go to the kh with us and my mom told me that animals were perfect and didn't need to go to the kh.. .

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  What amazes me is that they have that rythm of jw articles down pat.
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  Richard Dawkins Fail...

  by tenyearsafter in

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  2. child-abuse

  wow...hard to believe anyone would openly make this kind of comment.... http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/09/09/richard-dawkins-pedophilia_n_3895514.html?ncid=edlinkusaolp00000003#slide=989667.

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  Controversy is always good just before a book release, as there's no such thing as bad press.

  He is clearly being inflammatory. Despite all the jokes about private schools in the UK over the decades, I would imagine if this teacher had been outed for playing with little boy's penises in the 1950's he would have had a bleak (and limited) future. And of course what pedo stops at this stage of grooming? I'm sure there were dozens of poor kids who copped worse.
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  Aust. Election in 1 week - A review of Kevin Rudd, PM

  by fulltimestudent in

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  i'm still determined not to vote - just to write something unpleasant about pollies on the ballot paper.

  if i lived in victoria, i just may, as an act of sheer bastardry, vote for julian assange (of wikileaks fame), but i don't live in vic, so i cant.. my objection to voting is that the political choice offers two self-perpetuating oligarchies (who are something like the governing body).

  they make up a slate of candidates and election advertising consists of attempting to persuade swinging voters to vote for their slate of candidates.. anyway, i noted that k.rudd has made a video in chinese, aimed apparently at mainland china.

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  It's Labor party not Labour party . Geez....
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  Aust. Election in 1 week - A review of Kevin Rudd, PM

  by fulltimestudent in

  1. social
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  i'm still determined not to vote - just to write something unpleasant about pollies on the ballot paper.

  if i lived in victoria, i just may, as an act of sheer bastardry, vote for julian assange (of wikileaks fame), but i don't live in vic, so i cant.. my objection to voting is that the political choice offers two self-perpetuating oligarchies (who are something like the governing body).

  they make up a slate of candidates and election advertising consists of attempting to persuade swinging voters to vote for their slate of candidates.. anyway, i noted that k.rudd has made a video in chinese, aimed apparently at mainland china.

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  Jeffro covers my opinion.

  Funny FTS, you won't vote but you have a clear political stance against KRudd.