yesterday evening my wife and i were invited to friends house for new year's eve.
we met them when i was a christian and we have kept in touch.
they had a few other friends there as well, including the new church pastor and his wife.
So from what has been posted it seems that athiests cannot see any evidence of a god when 250,000 people were killed by the 2004 tsunami.
Believers on the other hand say that you need to ask god for holy spirit, then you get special knowlege(understanding) via holy spirit to "see" god's divine hand/plan above this horror.
True?
yesterday evening my wife and i were invited to friends house for new year's eve.
we met them when i was a christian and we have kept in touch.
they had a few other friends there as well, including the new church pastor and his wife.
Ah the time zones and work make it so hard to continue points.
Apologies Eden One that I didn't see the sarcasm in your post. I was scrolling through trying to get a clear understanding of your beliefs.
So could you pleaes clarify this point? god does not provide his holy spirit to you in any shape, form or manner??
yesterday evening my wife and i were invited to friends house for new year's eve.
we met them when i was a christian and we have kept in touch.
they had a few other friends there as well, including the new church pastor and his wife.
Eden One
I thank him for the spirit that guides me to wisdom, which in turn allows me to run my business in a way that I can provide for my family.
but then Eden One said....
If God interveines in a disaster of said magnitude, then he would be expected to act in a disaster of a smaller magnitude; then also in a little disaster; then again on personal disasters; then again in triffle situations of everyday life. Soon God would be expected to cure ingrown fingernails. If God would interveine to save the people in the asian tsunami, then others would ask fairly: What about ME? What about the people on that other volcano/flood/earthquake/ or whatever disaster ?
So god provides you with spirit of wisdom in your business but won't provide spirit to prevent the death of 250,000 people in the 2004 tsunami? I see another Muhummad Ali foot shuffle going on....
yesterday evening my wife and i were invited to friends house for new year's eve.
we met them when i was a christian and we have kept in touch.
they had a few other friends there as well, including the new church pastor and his wife.
Pelican
You have the Muhummad Ali shuffle going on with your ever changing goal posts
You have been "hoist by your own petard" In other words scrolling through this thread highlights your confusion and illusion in your "beliefs". I'm done communicating with you as it's off topic but I will stay on the thread.
yesterday evening my wife and i were invited to friends house for new year's eve.
we met them when i was a christian and we have kept in touch.
they had a few other friends there as well, including the new church pastor and his wife.
Still waiting for a response
PB yes all have a right to an opinion (belief).
The topic is about god's inaction when a tsunami killed 250,000 people and destroyed the lives of countless others. For a person to say "just trust god" needs to be asked by nonbelievers how do you come to that conclusion and what kind of god acts this way?
yesterday evening my wife and i were invited to friends house for new year's eve.
we met them when i was a christian and we have kept in touch.
they had a few other friends there as well, including the new church pastor and his wife.
PB yes all have a right to an opinion.
The topic is about god's inaction when a tsunami killed 250,000 people and destroyed the lives of countless others. For a person to say "just trust god" needs to be asked by nonbelievers how do you come to that conclusion and what kind of god acts this way?
yesterday evening my wife and i were invited to friends house for new year's eve.
we met them when i was a christian and we have kept in touch.
they had a few other friends there as well, including the new church pastor and his wife.
I think it needs to be separated as it has no reasonable arguement to support it.
God knows best kind of halts the debate.
yesterday evening my wife and i were invited to friends house for new year's eve.
we met them when i was a christian and we have kept in touch.
they had a few other friends there as well, including the new church pastor and his wife.
Another as noted above
We need to trust all of god's decisions as we trust the decisions Jesus made in the first century.
yesterday evening my wife and i were invited to friends house for new year's eve.
we met them when i was a christian and we have kept in touch.
they had a few other friends there as well, including the new church pastor and his wife.
Apologies about formatting. First time using IE
yesterday evening my wife and i were invited to friends house for new year's eve.
we met them when i was a christian and we have kept in touch.
they had a few other friends there as well, including the new church pastor and his wife.
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Bohm, Okay now we are getting somewhere :-).
I think you may like this answer: It all depends on how much I trust that you are who you claim to be. For instance, I know my daughter, I trust her. If she should find herself some day in a situation where she allowed someone to die rather than call for help I would believe she must have had good reason. But if I did not trust my neighbor, believing him to be a no good fellow, I would probably feel differently if he allowed someone to die without calling for help. I trust in God. I know Jesus from what his disciples wrote about him. So my view would be quite different from someone who did not trust in God or his Son. So there I've handed you a "flawed" Christian defense to do with as you will. Pelican So you just "trust" god in all he does? Add that to the list |
