Yes Cofty that is why I pressed Eden One via his sarcasm. A good intelligent man but he cannot see the delusion in his goal post shifting belief.
doofdaddy
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The Pastor of my Old Church Tried to Re-Convert Me Yesterday
by cofty inyesterday evening my wife and i were invited to friends house for new year's eve.
we met them when i was a christian and we have kept in touch.
they had a few other friends there as well, including the new church pastor and his wife.
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The Pastor of my Old Church Tried to Re-Convert Me Yesterday
by cofty inyesterday evening my wife and i were invited to friends house for new year's eve.
we met them when i was a christian and we have kept in touch.
they had a few other friends there as well, including the new church pastor and his wife.
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doofdaddy
So from what has been posted it seems that athiests cannot see any evidence of a god when 250,000 people were killed by the 2004 tsunami.
Believers on the other hand say that you need to ask god for holy spirit, then you get special knowlege(understanding) via holy spirit to "see" god's divine hand/plan above this horror.
True?
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The Pastor of my Old Church Tried to Re-Convert Me Yesterday
by cofty inyesterday evening my wife and i were invited to friends house for new year's eve.
we met them when i was a christian and we have kept in touch.
they had a few other friends there as well, including the new church pastor and his wife.
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doofdaddy
Ah the time zones and work make it so hard to continue points.
Apologies Eden One that I didn't see the sarcasm in your post. I was scrolling through trying to get a clear understanding of your beliefs.
So could you pleaes clarify this point? god does not provide his holy spirit to you in any shape, form or manner??
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The Pastor of my Old Church Tried to Re-Convert Me Yesterday
by cofty inyesterday evening my wife and i were invited to friends house for new year's eve.
we met them when i was a christian and we have kept in touch.
they had a few other friends there as well, including the new church pastor and his wife.
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doofdaddy
Eden One
I thank him for the spirit that guides me to wisdom, which in turn allows me to run my business in a way that I can provide for my family.
but then Eden One said....
If God interveines in a disaster of said magnitude, then he would be expected to act in a disaster of a smaller magnitude; then also in a little disaster; then again on personal disasters; then again in triffle situations of everyday life. Soon God would be expected to cure ingrown fingernails. If God would interveine to save the people in the asian tsunami, then others would ask fairly: What about ME? What about the people on that other volcano/flood/earthquake/ or whatever disaster ?
So god provides you with spirit of wisdom in your business but won't provide spirit to prevent the death of 250,000 people in the 2004 tsunami? I see another Muhummad Ali foot shuffle going on....
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The Pastor of my Old Church Tried to Re-Convert Me Yesterday
by cofty inyesterday evening my wife and i were invited to friends house for new year's eve.
we met them when i was a christian and we have kept in touch.
they had a few other friends there as well, including the new church pastor and his wife.
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doofdaddy
Pelican
You have the Muhummad Ali shuffle going on with your ever changing goal posts
You have been "hoist by your own petard" In other words scrolling through this thread highlights your confusion and illusion in your "beliefs". I'm done communicating with you as it's off topic but I will stay on the thread.
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The Pastor of my Old Church Tried to Re-Convert Me Yesterday
by cofty inyesterday evening my wife and i were invited to friends house for new year's eve.
we met them when i was a christian and we have kept in touch.
they had a few other friends there as well, including the new church pastor and his wife.
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doofdaddy
Still waiting for a response
PB yes all have a right to an opinion (belief).
The topic is about god's inaction when a tsunami killed 250,000 people and destroyed the lives of countless others. For a person to say "just trust god" needs to be asked by nonbelievers how do you come to that conclusion and what kind of god acts this way? -
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The Pastor of my Old Church Tried to Re-Convert Me Yesterday
by cofty inyesterday evening my wife and i were invited to friends house for new year's eve.
we met them when i was a christian and we have kept in touch.
they had a few other friends there as well, including the new church pastor and his wife.
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doofdaddy
PB yes all have a right to an opinion.
The topic is about god's inaction when a tsunami killed 250,000 people and destroyed the lives of countless others. For a person to say "just trust god" needs to be asked by nonbelievers how do you come to that conclusion and what kind of god acts this way?
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The Pastor of my Old Church Tried to Re-Convert Me Yesterday
by cofty inyesterday evening my wife and i were invited to friends house for new year's eve.
we met them when i was a christian and we have kept in touch.
they had a few other friends there as well, including the new church pastor and his wife.
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doofdaddy
I think it needs to be separated as it has no reasonable arguement to support it.
God knows best kind of halts the debate.
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The Pastor of my Old Church Tried to Re-Convert Me Yesterday
by cofty inyesterday evening my wife and i were invited to friends house for new year's eve.
we met them when i was a christian and we have kept in touch.
they had a few other friends there as well, including the new church pastor and his wife.
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doofdaddy
Another as noted above
We need to trust all of god's decisions as we trust the decisions Jesus made in the first century.
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The Pastor of my Old Church Tried to Re-Convert Me Yesterday
by cofty inyesterday evening my wife and i were invited to friends house for new year's eve.
we met them when i was a christian and we have kept in touch.
they had a few other friends there as well, including the new church pastor and his wife.
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doofdaddy
Apologies about formatting. First time using IE