Good points, thing is as you know JW teach of two comings, presence in 1914 then a coming to judge at Armageddon.
they think that presence and coming are different.
watchtower teaches jws that christ's presence began invisibly in 1914. they also teach that the start of christ's presence coincides with the start of the last days.
whether you believe in the bible or not, watchtower claims these teachings come from the bible.
so does the bible actually agree with them?
Good points, thing is as you know JW teach of two comings, presence in 1914 then a coming to judge at Armageddon.
they think that presence and coming are different.
i wanted to relate an experience that happened this morning.
it is regarding the new format for the meeting on thursdays in my area.
its not word for word but im summarizing what i heard, the best i can remember.
the GB are really only interested in the young ones, or young parents this is the impression I have had for a long time.
As many young ones leave not for the reasons that these elderly sisters have said, old ones will die of and its the young blood they need to try and keep in the org, to work for their building empire.
on another thread shepherdless sketched out the past business model of jws and its demise.
until 1990 they were a straightforward publishing business with the tremendous advantage of free labour in production and free distribution agents.
since then they've been relying on donations for literature to keep the old model going.
Congregation as a whole pay for the literature as far as I know its not free the b/s pay for it but its given away free, there was a time when it was emphasised to ask for a contribution from the HH, but no one ever really did they felt to embarrassed and any donations given by the HH is to go back to the KH towards the WWW, so it was like double dipping.
the GB rely on JW to pay for the literature to the congregation, and I do know that they have stopped posting special orders a brother will go to bethel to pick up orders I know this because I was told by the MS brother, this is in Australia by the way.
As far as the carts go the congregation pays for it. Also they have in countries now their literature shops with computers to look into JW. org, I guess they are relying on the public for donations. I can see them having hook ups for the meetings and most literature will be down loaded to save money, it would be very expensive to run their pods and with the computer age paper back is going out so they will have to think of some other way to get finances, probably out right tithing wouldn't surprise me and they will have some scripture for it.
http://www.commentarypress.com/copyright/.
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https://youtu.be/fdzzl453drq.
All the exJW utube video makers do a great job, don't think anyone really realised that pdf COC was against the copyright, once they did they tried to make things right.
Arguing among each other as to the different paths ones take after leaving the WT is futile everyone should respect each others journey and stick with the main picture, helping others to escape the WT false religion, and helping those that have.
despite claims to the contrary, there's no guarantee the watchtower will be around in a few decades time.
and it seems to me there's ever mounting evidence that the opposite may well be true.
but it's not just that recruitment is down and their defectors are up.
despite claims to the contrary, there's no guarantee the watchtower will be around in a few decades time.
and it seems to me there's ever mounting evidence that the opposite may well be true.
but it's not just that recruitment is down and their defectors are up.
despite claims to the contrary, there's no guarantee the watchtower will be around in a few decades time.
and it seems to me there's ever mounting evidence that the opposite may well be true.
but it's not just that recruitment is down and their defectors are up.
Think their will probably be a change in direction from the top like new light 12 little popes.
and a lot less witnesses, but they will be around for awhile yet but mainly on the net. Think the witnessing will eventually be done electronically and informally, KH will be hooked up to the GB talks and helpers.
they will probably bring in tithing and once all the oldies go the blood issue will be gone.
Just my opinion.
the org is now demanding money from the witnesses, via the latest letter sent to elders regarding the circuit's excess funds.
succeeded in getting elders everywhere to hand over their own congregation's "excess funds" - now their circuit's bank balances are going to be plundered.. the spineless and subservient elders will cooperate without a whimper, because they're afraid of losing their little bit of power which the org has bestowed upon them.
(john 11:48).
GB choices their words wisely, should is guilt trip but not a demand must is a demand, they are very clever when asking for donations.
They know how to fleece the flock without it looking like they are.
i had gone away for a rest and came back to pick my animals up.
(yes we share one common thing.
the love of animals).
losch's refusal to appear in court when subpeona'd to give testimony before a judge over his involvement in child abuse cover up and endangerment lawsuit .
i think such conduct should take away his freeness of speech and label him as a supreme hypocrite for giving such a talk about letting one light shine when he seems to be afraid to let his light shine in a court of law.
this man's hypocrisy knows no limits, and is extremely shameful.