Posts by sinis

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My response from the CCoJW inre UN/DPI

by AuldSoul in

sinis

You said your father is the PO, why can't he let you see the letter? If it was sent to another cong why can't he request a copy be sent to your cong?

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"THIS IS JEHOVAH'S HOUSE..." GAG!

by stillAwitness in

some of the kids my age in my hall are just an insult to my generation.

at the service meeting last week i was talking with one and we were near the front of the hall and there were a bunch of little kids running and jumping around the stage.

she goes: "what a shame.

sinis

I remember, just before we quit, there was a meeting part that admantly stated that the Kingdom Hall was holy. No "thank you" card, invitations or announcements could be put on the bulletin board without the elders' approval because it was holy. There was a big long list of things that couldn't be at the KH, not even outside. Also, it was inappropriate to put a drum beat behind the "Kingdom Melodies" because it was holy music.
Cellist

No, no, no... its the Information Board! I know this well as when I was a MS I "slipped" during an announcement and said Bulletin Board and after the Service Meeting I got the ass chewing of the century by the Service Overseer (what a prick)!

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What is a Born Again Christian??

by TopHat in

no, i am not a born again....just wanted to get some idea of what their belief is as i have always heard of them.

do they believe in "hellfire"

sinis

I was a JW for 49 years and my wife was one for 52 years. We are now both Born Again believers in our Lord and saviour Jesus Christ. It is not being in a religion, its being ONE with the Holy Spirit. John 3:3 says that unless ANYONE be BA they cannot see the KINGDOM, it does not say Kingdom of Heaven in any Bible that I have read, including the NWT. Therefore the WT Society have NO RIGHT in saying that Jesus was only talking about the Little Flock. The little flock were the Jews of Jesus day and the other sheep are the ones who accept Jesus out of ANY Nation or tribe.
To become a BA Christian is very simple and does not involve any special Bible Studies or Adherence to a Church or Group. In order o become a BA we just need to repent of our Sins and accept Jesus Christ as a saviour, simple as that. After that we need to ask for the Holy Spirit to fill our lives, which he does in abundance.
Both of daughters and their husbands are also out of teh Cult, and they are now BA Christians as well. Our oldest daughter Naomi was recently diagnosed with Lung Lymphoma and she is only 37 years of age. However we are all strong in our faith, and we know that she is going to be healed.
Both my wife and I serve in the Minsitry Team in our Church, and we just love praying for the sick and the lost.
The wonderful thing about being a BA Christian is that we have FREEDOM in Christ. So if we do not want to believe in a literal Hell Fire doctrine, then we do not have to. Having said that, we do believe that Hell is the place that was reserved for Satan and his Demons. We do have a problem with ETERNAL Damnation, because Philippians 2 clearly states that everyone will Bow or Bend the knee to Jesus, those in Heaven, those on Earth and those UNDER the Earth.
The main thing that has impressed us with Christians, is the LOVE and willingness to do things for others. My Christian Pal has just gone to Uganda to install water purification into a village, and this is his 2nd visit in the past 4 months. He studied with the JWs for 6 years, but did not see any real love, only works and commands of men.

Instead of hell do you think this might pertain to the original demons who sinned and were supposedly locked UNDER the earth? Just wondering.

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What is a Born Again Christian??

by TopHat in

no, i am not a born again....just wanted to get some idea of what their belief is as i have always heard of them.

do they believe in "hellfire"

sinis

oldiesman:

Welcome to the board.
The JW "requirement" is that you study their bible literature, preferably with the aid of selected texts from their bible, knock on people's doors distributing their literature, get baptised at one of their conventions and keep their changing standards up until some undetermined time that they keep dangling as a carrot before the rank and file.
IF you're lucky , God will read your heart and judge you as worthy. If you happen to die before that "undetermined time" arrives then you can do away with the previous paragraph and skip straight to the having your heart read, bit.
"The Way International" - is that the cult, you're referring to?
There are a couple of factual errors in your cut'n'paste, but other than that I would say it's a generally Christian position. I'm a little concerned by the disparaging comment about "feeling" the spirit, though. Can human beings genuinely divorce themselves from their feelings?

Since they do not participate in the "New Covenant" would they even qualify for salvation? This has been disturbing me for quit some time. I have read and re-read the passages regarding the New Covenant (lords evening meal) and have come to the realization in my HEART that a person needs to partake on a regular basis, as well as confessing sins and correcting them, to have any salvation hope. However, from all the years of being a JW my MIND tells me not to do it, why I don't know... perhaps I should follow my heart and what I believe to be true. The socities poison lasts a long time...

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Bad Behavior in Field Service

by TallTexan in

being raised in the 'truth', i obviously spent much of my youth in service.

of course, as we got older, my friends and i would act the fool in service as much as possible.

we used to use the names of popular rap artists with the old farts we called on.

sinis

Most of the time we'd just cruise around the neighborhood. I had a small 2dr hatchback and the one friend who enjoyed racking you in the balls would pop the rear hatch window and moon people driving next to us - thank god for limo tint. The only thing you would see was his big white ass hanging out the rear. See, pioneering ain't that bad if you have the right partners! Oh, this same guy would stop at restaurants to use the bathroom and pretend like he was messed up in the head (which he was!) and if there was someone using the urinal next to him (including us) he would piss on there shoes and say that he was sorry, and then do it again until the person went to another urinal. Did the best retard impersonation ever - 99.9% of the time saving him from a wordly ass beating.

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Bad Behavior in Field Service

by TallTexan in

being raised in the 'truth', i obviously spent much of my youth in service.

of course, as we got older, my friends and i would act the fool in service as much as possible.

we used to use the names of popular rap artists with the old farts we called on.

sinis

One of my buddies would rack you in the balls with his briefcase seconds before the householder opened the door, and yes it was your turn. He's trying not to laugh and your trying not to drop to your knees and spew out your presentation. Householder would just look at you like we were goofs. Another friend would hit on good looking girls, if they answered, and get phone numbers, etc. He would also, pathetically tell the householder during the summer how it was extreeeemly hooooot, and that he was reaaaaaalllly thirsssssssty (yes he would say it just like that - milking it for everything he had). 90% of the time the householder would bring out big glasses of tea or soda and he would continue with his presentation, once again milking it for everything. Usually we only did the one house per street - this really pissed the bookstudy OS off! Worse one was when I was with him at a door that had a security feature (small perforated holes - can't see in but you can see out) and we are talking crap, he's farting, were laughing thinking no one is home (also thinking the door was not open) - well this goes on for 10 minutes (once again miling our time) and we here this, "ahemm, can I help you?" we almost died laughing.

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What 'pranks' did you pull off?

by Golf in

since nate merit has already enumerated some of his pranks, how about sharing your pranks/mischief?

this forum could do with some laughter.

in my school days (50's) my buddy and i were always into mischief (witness or not.

sinis

We used to put snap caps under the toliet seats at the conventions, especially the ones really close to the auditorium. Sat close to the bathrooms and was always a gut buster to hear, pop - pop - pop, everyone look towards the restrooms, whole distraction thing. Worked great at the kingdom hall too. The other one was using an adjustable transmitter we got at a gag store. Tune into the convention program frequency (which they kindly gave at the beginning for all the hearing impaired) and just start talking about anything. Those with headphones would be like WTF? I could go on for hours, growing up was a laugh a minute.

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Satan rides a white horse?

by sinis in

has anyone else read revelation 6:2 and came to the conclusion that the rider of this white horse is non other than satan?

the surrounding context does not support that of the christ, as the wts says.

any thoughts?

sinis

I've often wondered about this. I've read Carl Olof Jonsson's theory but was not totally convinced. If the rider is Satan it seems incredibly odd that scripture would portray him in remarkably similar terminology and imagery as Jesus is portrayed later in Revelation 19, therefore I doubt that he is Satan.
If the other horse riders are symbolic for conditions or states, eg, death or famine, then to be consistent it would seem more logical to say that the rider on the white horse is also symbolic of something, eg, some type of conquest, rather than representative of a personality, like Jesus or Satan. Very puzzling.

That actually makes more sense when re-reading it. Thanks.

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Do you charge your 18+ kids rent?

by tall penguin in

i've been wondering what people think about this.

as soon as i turned 18 and had an income (it was disability but income just the same) my parents began to charge me room and board.

is this common practice?

sinis

I was regular pioneering, working part time (all the good dub things) and was still required to "donate" to the cause, though my parents were not hurting for money. Paid rent (1/3 of my income), paid for car insurance, paid for gas, etc. - when all was said and done I usually only had about $50.00 bucks to squirrel away at the end of the month for future car repairs, etc. As I look back on that I think the whole think was seriously fvcked up. Especially since my less than "christian" siblings didn't pay jack $hit. I don't have kids but if I ever did I would not charge them. As others have mentioned chores and other responsibilities can work as well - oh, which reminds me that I was also required to work my @ss off around the home...

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Satan rides a white horse?

by sinis in

has anyone else read revelation 6:2 and came to the conclusion that the rider of this white horse is non other than satan?

the surrounding context does not support that of the christ, as the wts says.

any thoughts?

sinis

Has anyone else read Revelation 6:2 and came to the conclusion that the rider of this white horse is non other than Satan? The surrounding context does not support that of the Christ, as the WTS says. Any thoughts? Either that or is the rider Abaddon which ascends out of the abyss?

http://www.scripture4all.org/OnlineInterlinear/NTpdf/rev6.pdf