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  Well I have a choice to make

  by Igot2bme in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  the elders came today without any notice and visited with me.

  they told me that my mother in law said i didn't want to have anything to do with the witnesses anymore.

  i said yes i did say that and then i laid it all out for them why i felt that jehovah god wasn't with them.

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  igot2bme --- admire your strength! too bad members on this board can't show up (not that you need anyone) and help those being bullied by these evil losers. it'd be great if you could call one of your local TV news reporting cos. where people take their complaints against companies and tell them you're being persecuted by the world's 2nd largest publishing house. i'm so sick of religions having rights -- i know, i know, it's what our country bla bla bla and the unfair justice says no one is forced to stay --- if people ONLY KNEW!!!!!!

  don't forget about pro bono legal help out there (if you don't have funds to blow on legal man) --- some big hitter law firms donate time/legal work in some cities/states. this board needs to somehow, someway, get journalists and law schools involved in all this evil. so sorry you are having to deal with this garbage.
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  Well I have a choice to make

  by Igot2bme in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  the elders came today without any notice and visited with me.

  they told me that my mother in law said i didn't want to have anything to do with the witnesses anymore.

  i said yes i did say that and then i laid it all out for them why i felt that jehovah god wasn't with them.

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  HI ZIDDINA --- I PM'd you.
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  Well I have a choice to make

  by Igot2bme in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  the elders came today without any notice and visited with me.

  they told me that my mother in law said i didn't want to have anything to do with the witnesses anymore.

  i said yes i did say that and then i laid it all out for them why i felt that jehovah god wasn't with them.

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  I'd follow Scully's advice plus call or leave message that you aren't following their rules and will be more than happy to contact your lawyer. If possible, have security camera installed on your front door step.
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  Tips for Dealing with Controlling People when You can't say drop dead.

  by Band on the Run in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i was wondering what tips/advice others have gathered from dealing with controlling people(a la jws) when one is enmeshed and can't terminate the relationship?

  how do you carve out and maintain boundaries when you must dance with the devil?.

  my rage scares me b/c i am reminded of my time in the jws..

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  bafh --- i agree about the cognitive therapy. some therapists are better than others but some very skilled ones out there. i've seen some miracles! books are good for reference material or another perspective (but think they should be used in addition to the therapist). some therapists recommend them. i think one needs all of the above but i like to collect books to read someday. My psych friends from many moons ago bounce things off one another (so much for helping oneself, or introspection, or alittle bit of knowledge is a joke) but have to say the ones w/masters/doctorates and that actually work in the field are in a league of their own. it was so many yrs. ago that they're retired now. wish i had their knowledge.

  you are smart to invest in yourself. it can be hard work. i know reality has devastated me more than once when you don't want to discuss w/friends.
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  Tips for Dealing with Controlling People when You can't say drop dead.

  by Band on the Run in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i was wondering what tips/advice others have gathered from dealing with controlling people(a la jws) when one is enmeshed and can't terminate the relationship?

  how do you carve out and maintain boundaries when you must dance with the devil?.

  my rage scares me b/c i am reminded of my time in the jws..

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  bafh --- RIGHT ON! the tough part in therapy is application (not an easy process). Experiencing anger, rage, sadness, depression, is more than having a gray day once in awhile.
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  Tips for Dealing with Controlling People when You can't say drop dead.

  by Band on the Run in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i was wondering what tips/advice others have gathered from dealing with controlling people(a la jws) when one is enmeshed and can't terminate the relationship?

  how do you carve out and maintain boundaries when you must dance with the devil?.

  my rage scares me b/c i am reminded of my time in the jws..

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  Here's my suggestions (and suggestions of "experts" in the field): Safe People by Dr. Henry Cloud/Dr. John Townsend; Boundaries, same authors.

  One of the all time best ever is Codependent No More & Beyond Codependency by Melody Beattie (has been out for many yrs. but hard to beat) --- one of her books was being read/studied in the schools. Her other great book ---- ooops i'll have to remember the title and I'll post.

  Enmeshment --- good to know you realize.
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  School for Congregation Elders

  by C.O.B.E.Beef in

  1. jw
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  i attended the school late last year, and it was an emotional and mental rollercoaster for me.

  i was already divided in my heart to say the least.

  one of the instructors stayed in my home for the week, and my family genuinely enjoyed his company.

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  TotallyADD--- OK you just scared me!! what is about to happen? they can't drink koolaid when they need 'em to distribute magazines and recruit, right? We better pray the gov't steps in on to protect the brainwashed. SCARY. didn't someone mention at one time they are on the FBI watch list --- well, i think they better take a closer look at them.
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  School for Congregation Elders

  by C.O.B.E.Beef in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i attended the school late last year, and it was an emotional and mental rollercoaster for me.

  i was already divided in my heart to say the least.

  one of the instructors stayed in my home for the week, and my family genuinely enjoyed his company.

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  what a read this THREAD!

  Aussie Oz --- will this reach the FBI or just he/said, she said, at this point? one scary organization protected under the laws.

  Jeremy --- hope you are RIGHT and they won't flourish forever. in the meantime wish the followers/ex-followers were protected somehow.
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  Here's What We Know About Jehovah's Witnesses

  by AllTimeJeff in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the condensed history set, to the music of the william tell overture.... some guy in the mid to late 19th century named c t russell felt spiritually disenchanted.

  didn't believe in hell and other traditional christian beliefs that he grew up around.

  so he read a lot, and got exposed to a lot of ideas.

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  Thanks, AllTimeJeff. Must copy/save this.
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  Do you give to beggars?

  by jean-luc picard in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i have seldom given money to beggars.

  i have often thought that many are people who just do not want to work.

  however, i am starting to wonder if i ought to: and how much to give?.

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  SORRY - TEC -- I worded that all wrong --- i meant any so-called church claiming to be a christian church --- not anyone coming to the church professing to be a christian for help. but, thankfully, one doesn't have to profess to be christian to receive help/aid. thanks for catching that for me.

  It's embarrassing such a wealthy country like US would not provide adequate aid to a family. Ooops, just read Lady Lee's post above --- unfortunately, i know more people than i care to think about that have ripped off the system. you would not believe!!!!! and then honest-hearted, desperate people come along and can't get help and how hard is it for them to verify the facts here. if you can't find work you can't buy your own food - DUH! i certainly hope this has changed since Carter's days. what an unfair system here and it makes me sick. i've had cleaning people who go to food banks and tell me about the expensive-types of whole-grain bread they pick up for free and they've also told me they are in the positions they are in because they've been LAZY. i always give them the benefit of the doubt and really think they've given up in the rat race --- maybe a cop out but life is very difficult/unfair and people throw the towel in.

  Lady Lee -- i worded that all wrong/thanks for catching. thank goodness there are religions and organizations that help people.