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  My old congregation is being shuttered

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  i just found out from my jehovah's witness cousin that my old congregation is being shuttered due to lack of elders, less than 20 members attending, and that the congregation cannot meet their monthly expenses.. here is a congregation that was started in 1975 with less than 15 members.

  it grew to 185 members in the 1990's.

  the congregation grew so large that the elders decided to split the congregation in two.

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  ThomasMore - I recall reading few lines about Menlo Park (very rich city/Cali, expensive real estate) and affluent elders litigating the WT. I can't understand why they'd do that if WT legally had the rights to all properties (secret and not made public to halls) unless court ruled outright for religion. If WT had no legal documents claiming ownership (and I'm sure they did) why did they bother. Have you details? Be nice to see the court docs. then we'd know why. Did the JW members use to own their halls -- seems weird but was e/adherent a 1% (whatever) owner.

  Yes -- the grab looked like desperation unless they were just wrapping up loose legal ends to avoid issues later and add to assets. I don't know but if this keeps them in the black they'll be carrying on ad infinitum different business model. Interesting times and I keep hearing economy bit tough here -- not sure why w/gaming making more than ever and builders can't keep up with housing. Doubt too many halls will crash here -- looks like 2 have been sold (can't think of term on graph) and one orphaned. Influx of people relocating here might keep the others going.
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  1290 JW Congregations have been deleted since 4th Dec 2022

  by ComingOutaMyCage in

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  https://i.redd.it/hd9p1g3ssr2b1.jpg.

  1290 jw congregations have been deleted since 4th dec 2022. i have a full map so you can explore active/deleted congs, and also orphaned halls https://analytics.jws-library.one/viewmap.html.

  many of the deletions in the usa appear to be foreign language groups.

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  What is an "Orphaned Hall?" One that is boarded up waiting to be sold?
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  My old congregation is being shuttered

  by RULES & REGULATIONS in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i just found out from my jehovah's witness cousin that my old congregation is being shuttered due to lack of elders, less than 20 members attending, and that the congregation cannot meet their monthly expenses.. here is a congregation that was started in 1975 with less than 15 members.

  it grew to 185 members in the 1990's.

  the congregation grew so large that the elders decided to split the congregation in two.

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  R&R - thanks for link.
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  My old congregation is being shuttered

  by RULES & REGULATIONS in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i just found out from my jehovah's witness cousin that my old congregation is being shuttered due to lack of elders, less than 20 members attending, and that the congregation cannot meet their monthly expenses.. here is a congregation that was started in 1975 with less than 15 members.

  it grew to 185 members in the 1990's.

  the congregation grew so large that the elders decided to split the congregation in two.

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  YUP, HelloThere - money going to Africa alright -- that's hilarious.

  They can sell whatever they want since they hold the deeds on the property or halls were coerced to sign over property to them. Once they own the property they can lease it back to the halls-- great business real estate.

  If the sheeple lost ownership of hall in Menlo Park (and everywhere) the WT must have legal docs re/all properties must be conveyed back to them. This is normal or like the Catholic Church.
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  My old congregation is being shuttered

  by RULES & REGULATIONS in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i just found out from my jehovah's witness cousin that my old congregation is being shuttered due to lack of elders, less than 20 members attending, and that the congregation cannot meet their monthly expenses.. here is a congregation that was started in 1975 with less than 15 members.

  it grew to 185 members in the 1990's.

  the congregation grew so large that the elders decided to split the congregation in two.

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  HappyDad -- I AGREE!😂
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  My old congregation is being shuttered

  by RULES & REGULATIONS in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i just found out from my jehovah's witness cousin that my old congregation is being shuttered due to lack of elders, less than 20 members attending, and that the congregation cannot meet their monthly expenses.. here is a congregation that was started in 1975 with less than 15 members.

  it grew to 185 members in the 1990's.

  the congregation grew so large that the elders decided to split the congregation in two.

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  Hellothere -- yes, you summed it up 'a boring, depressing souless place' -- nothing has changed since the 90s/still a miserable place. People are jumping ship -- or some, anyway.

  Looks like there's around 12 halls in the valley and that's not including Henderson which is only 20-30 minutes away and growing like crazy, also. Not sure they've sold off halls here yet -- doesn't seem like they have. I recall sell offs (other areas) past decade+ then the restructuring, dancing to the 'Happy' song and jw.org, etc., etc., being formed trying to attract the young folk -- looks like that's been a dismal failure. There was a site with WT real estate listings but haven't seen in long time (nor looked for it).
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  Normal people don't give a darn if you're a witness

  by XBEHERE in

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  this was posted on exjw reddit, check it out if some of you never have.

  https://www.reddit.com/r/exjw/comments/13q6k5l/normal_people_dont_give_a_darn_if_youre_a_witness/ .

  i find this to be the case, people in general are so not interested in religion that they really could care less about jws.

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  -- only dealt w/one weird situation recently by one obnoxious individual who can call me when donations, etc., needed so can do same if really interested.
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  My old congregation is being shuttered

  by RULES & REGULATIONS in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i just found out from my jehovah's witness cousin that my old congregation is being shuttered due to lack of elders, less than 20 members attending, and that the congregation cannot meet their monthly expenses.. here is a congregation that was started in 1975 with less than 15 members.

  it grew to 185 members in the 1990's.

  the congregation grew so large that the elders decided to split the congregation in two.

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  Can't imagine reality sinking in the ones I knew of. Did hear (another hall) the elderly/infirm (maybe just some) haven't returned to meetings which is understandable. Heard nothing about attendance issue but maybe they're use to it.

  Be a great time to sell halls -- real estate still hot here compared to some places.
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  My old congregation is being shuttered

  by RULES & REGULATIONS in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i just found out from my jehovah's witness cousin that my old congregation is being shuttered due to lack of elders, less than 20 members attending, and that the congregation cannot meet their monthly expenses.. here is a congregation that was started in 1975 with less than 15 members.

  it grew to 185 members in the 1990's.

  the congregation grew so large that the elders decided to split the congregation in two.

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  Hellothere -- is this really going on all over the US? I haven't heard but my friend who recently returned to meetings on a regular basis said her congregation is all older people.
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  Normal people don't give a darn if you're a witness

  by XBEHERE in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  this was posted on exjw reddit, check it out if some of you never have.

  https://www.reddit.com/r/exjw/comments/13q6k5l/normal_people_dont_give_a_darn_if_youre_a_witness/ .

  i find this to be the case, people in general are so not interested in religion that they really could care less about jws.

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  I'd forgotten that scripture (thanks) but if asked is much different than what most of us have experienced. Some people are so aggressive and far from humble. I don't think anything religious should be promoted or blathered about on company time -- unless asked and time permits.

  I've learned to ignore questions -- if someone asks 'do you have a church' I ignore - refuse to discuss in public. They get the hint real fast.