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  What will 1914 (DROPPED) mean for you (EX-JW)

  by John Aquila in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  let's pretend this might happen.

  im not asking what it will mean for the jdubs or for the organization, but what will it mean for you---- if one day you wake up and the watchtower drops the 1914 doctrine.. (you know at some point they have to, but probably not our lifetime).

  if you are disfellowshipped or disassociated and have been shunned by your parents, by your children, by you spouse or ex-husband/wife, for years or even less, will you call your relatives and ask/tell them;.

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  skin

  I think we will find that when it does get dropped it will mean nothing to the average witness, no shock or WHAT! from them. I even think today that most witnesses don't even understand or know the meaning or significance of 1914. Because of this lack of knowledge regarding the importance of 1914 that most witnesses currently have, they will view the dropping of it has just more evidence that Jehovah is guiding the faithful slave. More reason to remain steadfast in this organization.

  The reason I say this is because I have tried to help some who are completely wrapped up in this religion see some hard hitting facts about the wtbts and they can't or won't even consider it, and then I get an ear full about being negative towards the organization. Can't get through to them here so very unlikely 1914 or any other changes will wake them up.
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  True believers never save their money

  by stillin in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  it's an article of faith.

  either god is going to save them or he is not.

  since one local elder proudly told me that he never saved a nickel until just before his retirement, i've given this subject some thought.. savers are worldly..

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  skin

  This is so true. I believe it stems from the idea that the end is so near. They don't need any money in the new system so use it all now. This means in most cases being Materialistic with their money while bad mouthing worldly people for spending their money on the very same materialistic items.
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  A small update on the ongoing investigation by the Royal Commission

  by umbertoecho in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  i think you people would like to know that since the public hearing has finished.

  there has been ongoing contact made to me by the staff at the rc.

  they have been inundated with calls and the same experiences or similar ones are being related.. the staff are not backwards in coming forwards with insights that they have shared.

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  skin

  Would it not make sense now that everyone take audio recordings of their shepherding calls and J hearings?
  

  We had a shepherding call with a CO once where we were asked that very question, "Do you believe the GB is the faithful slave?" I wonder what response I would have got from the CO if I answered with the same words that Geoffrey Jackson answered at the RC for that same question.

  Take personal recordings, even if it is only for a laugh later on.
  
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  What woke you up?

  by Israel Ricky Gonzales in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  in march of 2014, i was a very active jw, a ministerial servant, gave a public talk, was an attendant for the memorial, and one of 4 cleaning captains for an international convention of 40,000+ attendees.

  so what woke me up?

  an innocent comment from a co-worker about the candice conti court case rang a bell that could not be unrung.

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  skin

  For me this happened around 15 years ago. It was the misleading information published in the WTs in the 80's and 90's about how wonderful they were to know about 1914 before that date. Then I read the pre 1930 wtbts books they told a completely different story about 1914. Silly me, at the time I raised this issue with another witness and was basically told to stay away from apostate literature.
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  search box not working

  by lefty in

  1. forum
  2. tech-support

  using a samsung galaxy s4 , the search box opens, but once selected the box diappears.

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  skin

  Does it on my s4 too.
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  Lurker - just joined

  by Je.suis.oisif in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  hi all, nothing to report just now.

  wanted to add name to list of those awakening.

  been lurking for nearly a year.

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  skin

  You are right, you have to be careful. I've been on this site for 10 years now. Still go to meetings (to keep the piece ) as there is no honorable and easy way out. Welcome to this site. It doesn't matter were you are with your life's journey, you can always come here.
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  Watch Tower Society owns web domains: www.MT2414.com and www.PS8318.com

  by Gilgamesh in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  (my apologies if this was already discussed somewhere else.).

  i noticed that the domain www.mt2414.com was taken, and when i tested it, it was a mirror of the log in portion of the www.jw.org site, where you can look up assemblies, kingdom halls, and make either one time or recurring donations.

  so i created an account there (you can use fake form information as long as it's a real email address for email verification).

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  Odd thing is, first time I opened that domain it was in Russian, now every time it is in English.
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  The local hall just got fleeced for $15,000!

  by My Name is of No Consequence in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  the local hall recently sold some property to the state for a road improvement project that is sorely needed.

  they received about $20,000.

  guess what?

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  skin

  Why even have resolution's? You know by the way the Elder reads out the
  resolution as to which way you are expected to vote. Then they do the count, all those that raised there hands for "yes", all those that raised there hands for "no". Almost every time it will be 100% vs 0% result. You don't want to be seen going against the resolution trend and thus being judged by all those that saw you raise your hand against the congregation trend. Could he be one of those counterfeit brothers in the congregation that we have been warned about...?
  
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  Experiences Of Speaking To Another Awake Witness Without Knowing It

  by freemindfade in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  this is interesting, i would love to hear of some experiences.

  i was speaking with someone offline about their talking to someone and coming to find out that person was waking up/awake too.

  the reason i find it interesting, is because it is such a fragile situation, a dance where the two people don't trust each other enough to just speak freely like they are afraid of being turned into the kgb.

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  skin

  No I haven't. But then there are some in the congregation that make me wonder if they are awake, until they answer up some watchtower guided nonsense at the meeting, then I know that no, they are still fully in.

  Even close friends of mine that have left the watchtower I would love to know if they are aware of the ttatt.
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  JW Business Cards

  by Funchback in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  hello from fortaleza, ceara, brazil!.

  i am a coordinator at an english language course here in fortaleza.

  i have been both living in brazil and working at this course for (4) years.

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  skin

  Good mid ground answer. They got nothing to report back about you.