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The physical effects of Cognitive Dissonance

by stuckinarut2 in

most of us here have gone through, or are going through the various stages "cognitive dissonance".. this is a term used to describe a situation where our minds, and hearts just know that something is "not quite right", and therefore we find ourselves in a muddle trying to reconcile the things we know with the things we are hearing or being told.... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/cognitive_dissonance.

so just wondering, how many of you found yourselves (or still find yourselves) becoming phyiscally ill in some way during the time of fading?.

i know that when i look back, for several years even before i was awake to the many issues and facts about the society, i would feel ill at assemblies or conventions.

skin

Another stage of "cognitive dissonance" can be found in this weeks (24th Oct 2016) Congregational book study. Near the end of this weeks study is this:

"PREPARED FOR THE BIRTH OF THE KINGDOM

Consider some historical events from the decades leading up to 1914. Can you see how these developments helped God’s people to be prepared for the birth of the Messianic Kingdom?"

Notice anything wrong with this? or misleading? Most JW's would have no idea what Russell was really teaching before 1914, (and up until the 1930's). Just the modern days WT reversion of its History. For those that don't see what is misleading with this title. Both Rutherford & Russell preached and published both before and after 1914, was the the birth of this Messianic Kingdom happened in 1874, and Christ was given rulership of that Kingdom in 1878. So how could Gods people be preparing for this birth, when at the time, it had already happened!.

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Where Can One Get Answers To Questions From JWs?

by Cold Steel in

there's also a fellow who calls himself the "watchman," but he seems as critical as many of the so-called "apostates.

" is there a place where one can ask questions from knowledgeable believers or "a" believer?

i really don't want to take the bible lessons.

skin

Post your question here. There are plenty of knowledgeable people here that can answer your questions.

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Watchtower Study Article 23/10/16 from August edition

by BluesBrother in

https://www.jw.org/en/publications/magazines/watchtower-study-august-2016/do-you-see-the-need-to-train-others/.

much of the article is the usual thoughtless mush that we have come to expect these days.

the rank and file bros. are urged to reach out to train the new ones... .

skin

Para 2: " Worldwide, the number of people accepting the good news is growing."

Has this changed? When i used to follow the figures found in the year books, these numbers were dropping.

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JW's know how to guilt trip....

by HereIgo in

when i left the org, the jw's tried their best to guilt trip me.

some of the questions i was asked and things i was told:.

"how could you possibly be happy outside of jehovah's organization?

skin

Don't you believe that this system is nearly ended?

Don't you want to meet your dad in the new world?

Why don't you want to be a witness anymore?

Why would you want to leave our spiritual paradise for Satan's doomed world?

And the list goes on....

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FYI, Eloise Dupuis, 27, a JW, died last Wednesday in a Quebec hospital because she refused a blood transfusion

by AndersonsInfo in

i just received the following message from a friend this morning.. barbara.

eloise dupuis, 27 years old, died at the hotel dieu hospital in lévis, quebec, canada, wednesday, october 12th.

she died because of her religious principles.

skin

Waiting for a news article link on this to be posted.

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Millions now living will never die (orginally "may" never die) was the WTS lying

by blondie in

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friends

this was first said in 1918 and adjusted to "will never die" in 1920. of course, the wts taught that the anointed had to die to go to heaven; but there was no great crowd teaching then, so they were talking about all non-anointed people on earth.

the wts members were known as bible students then and had been expecting the end in 1914 and it was adjusted.

one date that was stressed at that time was 1925. so i think they idea was that people living in 1918 would be alive to see the end in 1925, which of course did not happen.

skin

And lets not forget, the very first lie to God's people, Adam & Eve. Satan said to them, you will not die, and they did die. Today its WT that continue promote this lie, but this time, its under gods name.

It was only a few years ago that the original "millions will never die" book was mentioned at a meeting as an early sign that Jehovah was using this org back then. Does not the very title say otherwise.

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Disfellowhsipped for 7 years...

by HereIgo in

i remember around 2009, there was a scandal going on involving 2 families in my cong where the husband in one family was having an affair with the wife of the other family.

this resulted in pregnancy and subsequent disfellowshipping.

what was interesting to me though was a comment made by a co from the platform.

skin

Same thing happened in my Cong more than 10 years ago now. Husband in one family was having an affair with the wife of the other family. Both marriages ended because of it, the husband and the other wife both go DFed That was also the end of their affair. The innocent other half's both left the WT for good. The husband that was DFed was reinstated only a few years later. Not 7 years.

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The J.W fishpond of marriage mates! How many of us married a idiot!! No choice.

by Witness 007 in

what a horror.

instead of there being "more fish in the sea" our marriage mates came from the small and crapy witness pond.

anyone got burned by going with mr or mrs you will have to do?

skin

This could be the main reason I have seen so many divorces of JWs married to JWs over the past 20+ years that I've been in the WT religion, and a very low percentage of JWs that are married to a non JWs who divorce over this time. Now here comes the WT brain washing part of this statement. Try mentioning the fact that I have witnessed many JWs get divorced over these 20+ years I've been in (~~trapped~~) and you will most likely get shot down in flames for speaking negatively about the beloved WT religion, or has an Elder once tried telling me, "in the world they have way more divorces than JWs".

There was a part in this weeks meetings where it was brought out that if worldly people would only start studying with JWs, they would find that there marriages would become a lot more happier.

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Elder's remark about contributions not being made

by Simon Templar in

i am still in and was assigned to collect the contribution after the meeting.

i checked the boxes with another brother and there was nothing inside.

no contributions were made that day.

skin

Dont you just love the way WT go on about how wonderful they are because "no collections are ever taken at our meetings". But when our congregation don't meet the monthly amount that was pledged, we had read out to us from the platform a very rude letter from the branch explaining that we need to as a congregation keep up with our monthly pledge that we had made. Make sure that our yes means yes and so on... No sign of the branch being loving towards us as brothers and forgiving us for the shortfall of money, oh NO, Just, we want your money and we want it now!.

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Counting time

by Emma in

i may not have put this in the correct spot, but i do think it's scandalous the way time gets counted now.

i've seen a cart at the edge of our farmer's market, never anyone close enough to talk.

yesterday was a drizzly day and there were two carts set up, covered in plastic, "witnessing" on their own.

skin

Some of the side points to counting time that I disagreed with were.

1: If they need to know hours, like they always go on about, why do we even need to put our name on that paper slip. Wouldn't simply a reminder announcement at the end of each month to fill in that time slip without names do? That way they don't break the judging other people bible command.

2: How many times have we been doing house over house with another couple (usually pioneers), who spend more time talking and hardly moving down the street, meanwhile here I am (was) knocking on about 4 doors to there 1. Then within the hour of starting they are off down the road to the local coffee shop.