belogical8 hours ago
attendance average 3200 Baptized 13 that is .04 of 1%
Interesting that you counted 13, because I also counted 13, but they officially announced 14 were baptized. 10 sisters & 4 brothers.
anyone have the attendance numbers/baptism numbers for this?.
i would also be interested to find out the convention attendance stats for new zealand for any year available - so that they can be added to this.. thanks!.
hello to all the active jehovah's witnesses lurking on here, or those having doubts.
seriously, i welcome you.. i was explaining to one of my friends recently about how the watchtower society uses it's members to make them money every day without them even realizing it.
unbelievable?
So what else does the WTS really have to survive on ?
International conventions, the planning of more & more international conventions is a big money earner for Watchtower. And there are a few planned for next year. Only the well off JWs can afford to pay WT for the privilege to travel to the opposite side of the world .
i was just told there will be international conventions in canada in 2019. .
so i looked at jw.org and i see that there's a whole bunch of conventions now listed on the site for 2019.. isn't this odd?
normally we were told the location of conventions during the first week of january.. did they realize there was less in attendance in the 2018 conventions, and want to give ppl more time to make travel arrangements??
one of the recent threads on the talk about the hailstone message got me to thinking.
the problem with putting out a message like that is what to do when nothing happens.
i have to think that somebody will be asking that question.
The problem with putting out a message like that is what to do when nothing happens
If nothing happens, it just means it is still to happen and you don't want to be caught thinking it wont happen.
It has now been 140 years of them telling their followers that the end is just around the corner, and their followers are still putting faith in the end being just around the corner. So if WT say something will happen, means it will happen, just not in our lifetime, and the next generation will just continue believing these messages. That is unless new light overwrites these messages.
hi all.. personal experience.
attended a regional convention in melbourne australia.. saturday attendance,, 1,500 approx.. baptism,, 11. about 8 born ins ,,, all 8 under 20yo and 5 under 17.. 3 of the 11 appeared to be over 20 and are not born ins.. sounds about .8% increase ,,, kind of.. the outstanding part of the day was the continual reference to ' are you, can you do more'.
ha ha fear obligation guilt.. jtg.
We got our NZ one in 2 weeks. Will be interesting to see what numbers there are.
please check this out:.
https://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/news/hull-east-yorkshire-news/ex-jehovahs-witness-hull-joins-1906232.
mm.
Thanks for sharing.
witnesses are used to saying that every other religion but their own makes up “false religion “....how would a devout witness handle being labeled as a member of a false religion??
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Depending who it was, but mainly it would be the death stare.
i have been out a good 10+ years and until recently didnt pay much attention to what the jehovahs are up to.. why have they taken this turn with the bunker videos and making all the brainwashed people like my parents pack a go bag.
now let me just clarify.
im a military man i believe everyone should have an element of preparedness canned goods,bottled water and a bug out bag is a great addition ( ill stop waffling on about that now).. but what concerns me is the fact they are advising elderly people to bug out.
Preparing for Natural disasters.
i have been out a good 10+ years and until recently didnt pay much attention to what the jehovahs are up to.. why have they taken this turn with the bunker videos and making all the brainwashed people like my parents pack a go bag.
now let me just clarify.
im a military man i believe everyone should have an element of preparedness canned goods,bottled water and a bug out bag is a great addition ( ill stop waffling on about that now).. but what concerns me is the fact they are advising elderly people to bug out.
Zed said:
We had a baby near death -wife in hospital with- elder not available as he was working on a part for the coming convention.
We had a very similar thing happen to us, we had a young child in hospital for 2 weeks and during that time it was very touch and go. At no point during that time did our group elder who lives less than 5mins from the hospital ever visit, only a few txt messages asking for updates. Not long after that when I finally asked to be removed from the ministry school, within a day, that elder contacted me and invited me to join him for a coffee at a cafe of my choice. Next day he was able to go out of his way to meet me, and there was no way he was going to talk me back into joining the school again.
angus stewart qc, senior counsel, has had a long and distinguished legal career, beginning with his passion for justice in south africa, fighting apartheid, then later working in the truth and reconciliation commission, and more recently acting as senior counsel in the case studies on jehovah's witnesses in the australian royal commission into institutional responses to child sexual abuse.
angus discusses, from his own personal point of view, and not representing the carc or the commissioners, what the journey was like, learning about the internal law and policy of watchtower society, how he became determined to stand for justice for all the victims and for the whole community of ex jehovah's witnesses and how he felt about the evidence being presented to him and the people presenting it.. interview by lara kaput and louise goode for jw community podcast.. https://jwcommunitypodcast.simplecast.fm/cf4d380d.
Thanks for making this interview available. I also enjoyed watching Augus and the ARC live.