1) throughout the whole article jw's were being told not to believe or pass on everything they hear, but to examine the information to prove whether it was true or not.. 2) throughout the whole article jw's were being told not to listen to or look into any information or challenges which sounded negative about the org.. mind-numbed jw's will be leaving their kh's today wondering, "do i try and prove to myself and others that that what has been said is definitely a lie, (1 timothy 4:1; 1 peter 3:15;1 john 4:1) or do i totally ignore it and believe everything the org tells me is true?
" (proverbs 14:15).
cult-training in full flow..
Yet not a whisper on JW.org about the 38 million dollar lawsuit that they lost last week.
Does makes you wonder if they timed this study to coincide with the out come of that lawsuit?.
As this study brought out "Don't believe the negative lies the media say about us...or you could lose your faith, how sad that would be".
i just saw an ad last night for this.
it will be televised in november on a&e..
Time to start watching A&E.
i just saw an ad last night for this.
it will be televised in november on a&e..
Is that cedars
Looks and sounds like him.
i asked the question on quora: .
if the governing body abandoned the 1914 teaching, would you leave jehovah's witnesses or you would remain a member regardless?.
https://www.quora.com/if-the-governing-body-abandoned-the-1914-teaching-would-you-leave-jehovahs-witnesses-or-you-would-remain-a-member-regardless.
ok. we are all aware of the scandal around the non reporting of child abuse cases to the authorities by the elders and how it was part of watchtower policy.. this has probably been discussed before, which i apologize for now if it has.. the obvious view that most of us make as to why the gb are so reluctant to comply with the authorities by revealing their database around child abuse allegations, is that the leadership at watchtower hq likely were trying to safeguard the reputation of the organisation.. however, (just a theory) are they hiding something more sinister which could in effect devastate the organisation ie could it be they are hiding some things within the gb itself, whether it be some individuals within the gb of the past or even present who might have had some serious allegations made against them which the authorities are never going to know about?
i mean why the hell are they going to such lengths to hide everything???.
any thoughts?
Ding said "Granted, identifying and DFing pedophiles and other child abusers would be one way of doing that, but people (including JWs themselves) would start asking why the problem is so widespread within Jehovah's happy organization in the first place"
What about the high % of JW divorces. (At least in the 3 congregations I've been in over the last 30 years). That hasn't made the people question / doubt the org. In fact the one time I heard a faithful old sister question an elder over the high divorce rate within her congregation, his answer was "not when you compare the number of divorces to that of the world". I did compare, and still today I hear of more & more divorces going on in WT land.
in today's wt study, 9th sept 2018, para 14. we learnt that jesus mother, mary, is one of the 144.000 anointed at penticost.
just another classic, we know more than what is contained in scripture..
From the WT studied 23rd Sept 2018 is this picture:
Quote from the para "If you realize that your associates pose a threat to your good standing with Jehovah, act decisively by limiting and if necessary ending such friendships.—Prov. 13:20."
Well, I can say 3 of those 4 bad subjects that they are talking about are items very much related to WT interest, Suits, money & Ipads.
What about that angry looking guy that could be about to smash his glass? Where have I recently seen something similar? smashing a glass in anger over an unscriptural idea...
i have just watched the glass smashing on the wt video on education.. please consider these experiences from the opposite side of that "coin".. i have heard young ones say out-loud on the mike in the kh that "jehovah is my special friend.."these ones who were at the top of the wt 'tree' pioneering, putting in the hours etc but, it followed that soon saying that pivotal statement they dropped their pioneering, faded, picked up the girl/boyfriend and suffered being dfd.. so where did their wt "education" leave them?
it left them as young adults naive to the world, unskilled, with no qualification to offer any employer and having to replace their former family/associates/friends with new ones.. ( dont get me going on shunning) in some cases with little success as we have read here where they moon about for months or longer unable to emotionally heal after the leaving or df'ing and also others with such a turn around they would never have believed it possible... there was a wt that related how a brother (!
) followed an interest in history and left the truth.
The org seems to have something going on with wine glasses and anger. There is a picture in last weeks WT study showing an angry brother holding a wine glass.
the next time a jw brings up a natural disaster or severe weather event as proof of the last days, and they preface it by reciting a fact they heard on the news like, (just for the sake of example) 'it's the worst earthquake in 70 years' or 'the worst plague in 200' years', (you get the picture), then simply reply: "oh, so that means that ____ years ago there was one that was worse, right?".
i did this twice.
both times got the same response:.
I sometimes use something similar when I hear that "this is the worst time in human history" or somesuch....
..."You'd rather live in the Old West? The Middle Ages? The Roman Empire?
Or any time, anywhere before 1914.
oh rapture!
today's wt caused my wife's first [jw mind control] epiphany and she didn't hesitate to share upon her discovery.
09/16/2018 | "where are your eyes looking?
I'm sure they have changed the ones who write the the WT study in this months mag, at least for these first 2 studies in it. Every WT study mag before this had on average 6 quotes for some witness who lives in some place that had something to say. And then the quote from them that backs up word for word what WT are saying.
Para 18 also had this to say, "At the same time, we will be careful that we “do not go beyond the things that are written.” (1 Cor. 4:6)".
And what is the lesson for us in this photo? from para19.
i had two episodes of visiting exjw websites:one time around 2007 when i just googled "jehovah´s witnesses" and dared to look at those sites.
i was scared and i promised myself i would never come back to them.
however, that one didn´t really count.the moment that woke me up was this:i got to know that whitney heichel was a jw and murdered by another jw, because i overheard that conversation in a kingdom hall.i looked up the news and in one of the news comments, there was one where an exjw was complaining that they were hijacking her funeral and they were really trying to downplay the fact that her murderer was a jw... and then it said "visit jwfacts.com"... which i did.and the rest... is history.what exactly got you onto an apostate website when you woke up?
It was http://quotes.watchtower.ca.
That website was simply showing quotes of various watchtower teachings within their respective context. I remember I watched it as there were no "apostate" comments over them and they were in fact, clearly in their context.
And then, the watchtower had the web site shot down using copyright laws: I was shocked, SHOCKED! How could they shut down a site that simply displayed information that I was giving away for free every Saturday morning?? Besides, I could not imagine that Jesus would have done something similar either.
The same, exactly the same. Although I had already started to wake up (before I had internet access) from reading some pre 1930 WT publications and then being told in the WT study a rewritten version of their history. Why lie about their past? That's right, its not a good look. lets remove our embarrassing past.
