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WT Using Symbolic Interpretation to Twist Scriptures

by Sea Breeze in

does anyone know of examples where the watchtower used symbolic interpretation to twist the plain meaning of scripture?the only one that comes to my mind right now is in rev.

"then i heard the number of those who were sealed: 144,000 from all the tribes of israel".. .

here, the wt would have us believe that the number of those sealed are literally 144k; but supposedly "israel" symbolically represents anointed jw's.

skin

This is one that comes to mind, when it comes to shunning wrong doers who have been spoken to by the elders. This verse is used.

Matt 18:17

“If he does not listen to them, speak to the congregation. If he does not listen even to the congregation, let him be to you just as a man of the nations and as a tax collector”.

Watchtower tell us that the "man of the nations and the tax collector” here are symbolic for disfellowshipped ones. But nowhere does the Bible support the idea that we shun people of the nations or tax collectors, even Jesus associated a lot with these people.

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I think Splane is the Cult Leader. And I think there are more apostates working on the inside than we can imagine.

by pistolpete in

so in the latest leaked video, splane goes on this crazy delusional rant about how faithful witnesses should never research their faith.. he criticizes the worldly court system and says they are not fair toward witnesses and the organization.

he says the court system is rigged and witnesses who get convicted, (implied child sex abusers) are innocent.

he is literally trying to justify child molesters and elders who cover them, as good people in "god's eyes" even though "human authorities" may judge them and put them in jail.

skin

Here is a the link to the video in question. Fast forward to the 1hr-03min mark to see the start of his talk. So much control using fear going on here.

https://www.jw.org/en/library/videos/#en/mediaitems/2021Convention/pub-co-r21_8_VIDEO

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I think Splane is the Cult Leader. And I think there are more apostates working on the inside than we can imagine.

by pistolpete in

so in the latest leaked video, splane goes on this crazy delusional rant about how faithful witnesses should never research their faith.. he criticizes the worldly court system and says they are not fair toward witnesses and the organization.

he says the court system is rigged and witnesses who get convicted, (implied child sex abusers) are innocent.

he is literally trying to justify child molesters and elders who cover them, as good people in "god's eyes" even though "human authorities" may judge them and put them in jail.

skin

It is now available to watch on jw.org, watched it today as part of the Saturday afternoon convention program, last talk. He has lots to say to scare witnesses, to stop them from looking outside the words of WT.

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Disturbing JW letters again

by Fadeaway1962 in

https://www.devonlive.com/news/devon-news/anger-over-disturbing-handwritten-jehovahs-5705918i'm .

upsetting the locals again ..

skin

Not on that link either. But can be found using the search option on your link. Interesting to read the comments at the bottom of that article. Most people are saying they don't have an issue with those letters.

But I'm surprised we don't hear more about this over the media. This area is getting covered about ever 6 months with a letter.

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What is it with these lard ass GB and gold rings and watches?

by mickbobcat in

they wear jewelry like they are some don from the cosa nostra.

watches and rings like some cheap pimp.

hey they are cheap pimps.

skin

After watching only the Fri morning, the GB have now moved that flashy ring from their pinky finger, over to the wedding finger on their right hand.

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Are JWs still reporting time?

by Vanderhoven7 in

here are some little child encouragers at work.. .

how do they report time since the halls closed?.

skin

Yes, hours are still recorded and reported back to HQ. Hours spent on phone calls and letter writing. 4 to 5 hand written letters per hour.

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What are your personal reasons for hating the Jehovah's Witnesses religion ?

by Rocketman123 in

first thing comes to mind is that this organization through its leaders are not witnessing the true and honest version of the gospel teachings of jesus christ .. they are subjectively teaching/preaching a tainted version made up by the top controlling men of the organization, which i'm sure is connected to the proliferation and distribution of literature which these men publish themselves.

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when jesus said that no one knows of the time not even he, he didn't say a select few will know .. the other thing that bothers me is this organization promotes human ignorance on many levels, admonishing education or knowledge that mankind needs for its very survival... there are many other religious organizations that do this as well but the jws is just one of these organizations.

skin

There are lots of minor ones that make me shake my head. The most recent, our congregation had an excessive amount of donations saved up, thats on top of and over the monthly payments being made to the branch, the resolution was to gift the extra $$ to WT. Meanwhile there are some in the congregation that dont have much money, who are having too spend $$ of what little money they have on stamps to use with letter writing witnessing. It made more sense to me to use the extra donations to go toward local witnessing, not somewhere thats never to be seen again.

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Does this look like the WT is going to be around a long time? One Watchtower @ One Awake for the public in 2022

by pistolpete in

i keep hearing that the watchtower org is going to be around forever because of the many other religions that have been around a long time.

but i disagree because the wt is not like other religious cults.. the watchtower's breath of life is dependent on the last days that started in 1914. .

you can’t change 1914 without a death blow to the entire organization.. the watchtower's 2nd reason for staying alive, is it's continual urging that the life saving preaching work of warning people is the most important work ever.. but- it's very obvious to many, even the old ones that instead of speeding up the work------the work is slowing down to a drip.. comment by former believer; .

skin

Brilliant Sloppyjoe. It makes so much sense now...this clarification regarding the last days shows the urgency of our times.

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Why No Disfellowshipping Before 1952?

by blondie in

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friends

why was there no official arrangement before 1952 to disfellowship people?

was there a different procedure with a different name?

was no one committing disfellowshipping offenses?

skin

Today we can't kill apostates, but we can at least disfellowship them!"

I would say most disfellowshipped apostates are falsely labeled apostate to put fear in current jws from listening to them, and learning facts about WT that WT need to keep hidden. Can't have to many people learning TTATT.

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Kingdom Hall in Barrington, Illinois

by Expanded-Mind in

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friends

i often drive past a kingdom hall in barrington, illinois, where, when i was still a witness, i had visited a few times.

it wasn't too far from the hall i attended and we got to know people from this congregation.. i recently passed it by and it appeared there was a new sign in place.

yesterday i decided to pull into the parking lot on my way home, and it appears that the hall has been sold and is now occupied by seventh day adventists (i did a check online when i got home).

skin

Let's not support Babylon the Great by entering one of their second hand op shops and purchasing a shirt.

If your work gets a contract to perform any building maintenance on a church, thats not allowed because that's promoting false worship.

Selling KHs and other WT buildings to religious organizations is totally fine.