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  A question about the contemporary generation teaching following a conversation with a JW apologist

  by Giles Gray in

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  i would like to ask the ex-jws on this site to put their ‘apologists hat’ back on for a moment, so that i can go through the overlapping generation teaching in an attempt to make sense of it.

  i apologise if these points have already been addressed on this site.a quick background for the reason for my request… having never confronted a jw apologist on the topic, i recently engaged with a jw regarding the official understanding of a ‘generation’ and unfortunately he didn’t have an answer to the points i was making.

  i was left a little confused as to what the official jw response would/should be.so i was hoping that my thoughts below might be considered from an apologist’s perspective.the point in question relates to this section of the watchtower article below from 2008, as well as the jw.org video explanation of the overlapping generation:---:w08 2/15[box on page 25] can we calculate the length of “this generation”?the word “generation” usually refers to people of various ages whose lives overlap during a particular time period or event.

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  I like the way you have related the modern day WT generations to those found in Matt chap 1. That clearly shows the nonsense idea of an overlapping generation.

  Unfortunately with JWs, whatever the GB say over rides scripture. It is a very serious sin if a JW were to openly admit that something the GB says does not make sense. You must defend that belief with your life until the GB get new light, once this overlapping generation timeframe runs out. Then the new teaching will be so clear and obvious. But not until Tony's earthly course ends.
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  4 Letters Arrived--English and Spanish! (as of 2020-06-19)

  by Atlantis in

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  2. friends

  1.--2020-06-18-- english--instructions for our online meetings.. distractions.

  noisepreparations.

  personal appearance .

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  Yes, please.

  Thanks
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  Gerrit Loesch video from this week's meeting

  by neat blue dog in

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  2. beliefs

  he talks about how a group of 5,000 broke away from the organization due to distrust of government agents infiltrating the jws.

  they weren't regarded as apostates, just distrustful.

  he uses phrases like "their leader" and "his elders", and how they had a meeting with the governing body and made the decision for all these thousands to reintegrate them into the jws, splitting them up among congregations.

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  https://www.jw.org/finder?srcid=share&prefer=content&applanguage=E&locale=en&item=pub-jwb_201901_6_VIDEO&docid=1011214
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  Things are too quiet at Warwick (Bethel)

  by RubaDub in

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  i guess it's the covid-19 thing.

  but very little news from a couple of people i know well there.

  they can't leave the "compound" or much of anything else.

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  Normally they would be out in the open informing everyone that all is ok and everyone is thinking of everyone and all are sending there love etc...but nothing like that this time???
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  Documents That Have Arrived as of 2020-06-02!

  by Atlantis in

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  2. friends

  documents that have arrived as of 2020-06-02 in english and spanish.letters are:.

  if you are on the email list these are already under your coffee cup.

  if your not on the email list, then reply below if you want the link put in your pm box.petra!.

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  Yes, please.
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  J. W's Are Afraid of Old Literature

  by IWant2Leave in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i'm reading babylon the great has fallen, god's kingdom rules, published 1963. this was studied years ago when i was about 10-12 years old.

  i wanted to just read some of the beliefs from decades ago.

  my wife wants to know why i'm reading this book.

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  When I joined this religion 30 years ago, a sign of how spiritual you were was based on the size of your personal library. I built myself up an awesome sized library that any witness would have been proud of, we would compare books, who had the oldest etc. When visiting other brother’s homes, where is your WT library if it wasn’t in full view in the main room in there house. Not anymore. Owning any WT book older than about 10 years, now gets me a sideways look from my PIMI, usually followed by the question, why do you need that? everything we need is now online. I’ve even had this guilt line said to me, “What if we come under ban and you still have those books”. We had a letter read out about 7 years ago, asking for all old WT books to be returned to the Branch office so they could add them in the WT museum, we were expected to cover the cost of postage to send them. Not me, I ended up selling online (kept the good ones), my PIMI told me to put the money into the donation box at the KH, I kept the money, why would I want to pay for those books twice?
  
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  Field service national average - what do you think it is now?

  by BourneIdentity in

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  2. experiences

  it’s always been 10 hours when door to door was active.

  i’m curious of how it’s changed with only letter writing and phone witnessing approved.. i’m curious if they are able to do it for 3 hours like a typical door to door morning.

  i would be surprised.

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  Its always been 10 hours when door to door was active

  They had to reduce it to 5hrs where I live. Not enough brothers were averaging 10. Even with that, sister's are being used for the sound and mic's over any brother reporting 5 hrs or less.
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  CO zoom visit this week part deux

  by nowwhat? in

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  so within a week he changed the end time chain of events.

  this time he said false religion will be along side with the govt.

  powers when they declare peace and security!

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  nowwhat?

  Good point the last days started in 1874.

  I'm going to go one step further, according to WT books published before 1928, the last days started in 1799.
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  Zoom and JW.org working together.

  by skin in

  1. watchtower
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  who is hosting who here?.

  https://jworg.zoom.us/.

  our kh zoom meeting invites are now coming in from jw.org, but are still hosted by the local elders.

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  It's just a vanity url
  

  Thanks dubstepped for clearing that up. Makes sense now.
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  Zoom and JW.org working together.

  by skin in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  who is hosting who here?.

  https://jworg.zoom.us/.

  our kh zoom meeting invites are now coming in from jw.org, but are still hosted by the local elders.

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  Did they buy into Zoom? Or buy Zoom?
  

  Zoom is free. In my area, when the local brothers first set up zoom for JW meetings, those who set it up used our email address so they could send out the invites to access the zoom meeting. It is those email address's that have now received the email invite from jw.org to watch the online assembly program.