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  Fist Post

  by drew sagan in

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  first post

  just wanted to introduce myself to the group.

  i've followed this site for a while, but never have contributed before.

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  Welcome Drew

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  January 15 WT : Beware of Apostasy

  by truthseeker in

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  hi all, this post comes from the e-watchman site, when i get the mags, i will post further.. http://e-jehovahs-witnesses.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=433.

  the following is taken from the watchtower of january 15, 2006, page 23 under the heading 'resist the foremost apostate': .

  'because of listening to the devil and not rejecting his lies, the first human pair apostatized.

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  Well, people *did* "question" the kool-aid. People resisted. They were shot. They were forcefed. They had their bones broken.

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  Are the gospels genuine?

  by ackack in

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  i've been reading the jesus puzzle and something interesting was this re-ordering of q. its seems like the various pieces of q in luke and matthew have different contexts.

  this would support that the contexts for the q sayings were invented.. it seems that paul doesn't reference the gospels in any form.. does this support a late writing for the gospels and therefore calls into question how close the gospels were written to the alleged events of jesus' life?.

  how would someone who believes in the gospels reconcile these differences?

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  Nate Merit, was that like some kinda form letter? :)

  Narkissos, I'm all for degenerating the dialogue with some toilet humor. :)

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  The 1914 Doctrine and The Threat of the Egibi Business Tablets

  by VM44 in

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  could the watchtower and the jehovah's witnesses survive the discarding of their 1914 doctrine?

  the doctrine that in 1914 the end of the gentile times took place, jesus took up rule in heaven.

  for some reason the jws think the outbreak of world war i in 1914 is proof their prophetic calculations were correct.

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  Are you saying that there are multiple Babylonian chronologies? Can I have some references please?

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  The 1914 Doctrine and The Threat of the Egibi Business Tablets

  by VM44 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  could the watchtower and the jehovah's witnesses survive the discarding of their 1914 doctrine?

  the doctrine that in 1914 the end of the gentile times took place, jesus took up rule in heaven.

  for some reason the jws think the outbreak of world war i in 1914 is proof their prophetic calculations were correct.

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  Scholar, what is your view on the kings and lengths of rule for neo-babylon?

  How do you get around the contemporary business tablets?

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  Are the gospels genuine?

  by ackack in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i've been reading the jesus puzzle and something interesting was this re-ordering of q. its seems like the various pieces of q in luke and matthew have different contexts.

  this would support that the contexts for the q sayings were invented.. it seems that paul doesn't reference the gospels in any form.. does this support a late writing for the gospels and therefore calls into question how close the gospels were written to the alleged events of jesus' life?.

  how would someone who believes in the gospels reconcile these differences?

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  What are these external sources Forscher?

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  Comments You Will Not Hear at the 12-4-05 WT Study (Shepherd)

  by blondie in

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  jehovah is our shepherd .

  "jehovah is my shepherd.

  " he said to him: "shepherd my little sheep.

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  Just wondering here... what percentage of study articles mention the FDS? Seems like about 90% ... is that true?

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  Are the gospels genuine?

  by ackack in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i've been reading the jesus puzzle and something interesting was this re-ordering of q. its seems like the various pieces of q in luke and matthew have different contexts.

  this would support that the contexts for the q sayings were invented.. it seems that paul doesn't reference the gospels in any form.. does this support a late writing for the gospels and therefore calls into question how close the gospels were written to the alleged events of jesus' life?.

  how would someone who believes in the gospels reconcile these differences?

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  Yes, Paul does indicate that he recieved from the Lord by direct revelation. Yes, there are many similarities to Paul's writings and various quotes from the gospels. Earl Doherty's argument is that a) when making these various arguments, why didn't he appeal directly to actually Jesus' sayings? b) sometimes he alludes, some times completely disagrees. Interesting that you picked Mark 10:11-12 in there. I always found it funny how Paul seems to "extend" this with 1 Cor 7:15. The example in the book was where Jesus says not one letter of the law would pass away with Paul's teaching in Galatians that the law was done.

  I suppose its arguable that the parallels between them could be easily explained as the gospel writers ripping off of Paul's works. One possiblity perhaps.

  I could sit here and listen to you read the ingredient list off of a can of soup and be totally fascinated.... sigh :)

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  Are the gospels genuine?

  by ackack in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i've been reading the jesus puzzle and something interesting was this re-ordering of q. its seems like the various pieces of q in luke and matthew have different contexts.

  this would support that the contexts for the q sayings were invented.. it seems that paul doesn't reference the gospels in any form.. does this support a late writing for the gospels and therefore calls into question how close the gospels were written to the alleged events of jesus' life?.

  how would someone who believes in the gospels reconcile these differences?

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  Its curious that you could teach about Christ without ever once quoting him or referring to his object lessons. I guess Jesus' actual saying are of only limited value (in Paul's eyes according to that theory)

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  Are the gospels genuine?

  by ackack in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i've been reading the jesus puzzle and something interesting was this re-ordering of q. its seems like the various pieces of q in luke and matthew have different contexts.

  this would support that the contexts for the q sayings were invented.. it seems that paul doesn't reference the gospels in any form.. does this support a late writing for the gospels and therefore calls into question how close the gospels were written to the alleged events of jesus' life?.

  how would someone who believes in the gospels reconcile these differences?

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  Interestingly, the author of the Jesus Puzzle argues that Mark had access to a more primitive, or verbal tradition of Q.

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