were the ancient civilisations far more technologically advanced than previously has been given credit for?
did they possess advanced weaponry systems?
do the scriptures back this up?.
Hey Mark,
yeah, me is okay! Thanks for asking.
And what you probably did not want to know: I have to use the john right now, pretty badly.
How are you?
I may catch you later... he hehe hehehe
cellomould
"In other words, your God is the warden of a prison where the only prisoner is your God." Jose Saramago, The Gospel According to Jesus Christ
in a certain circuit, all elders are jerks.. 1/2 of all the ministerial servants are also jerks.. 1/2 of all the jerks in that circuit are elders.. there are 40 elders are 46 ministerial servants.. no elder is a ministerial servant.. 1/2 of the number of jerks who are not elders or ministerial servants are pedophiles.. how many pedophiles are there in that circuit?.
farkel.
"i didn't mean what i meant.
Here's the rub, Farkel:
You didn't say that the only pedophiles were non-elders, non-MS. So I'd say that a significant fraction of the appointed men could also be pedophiles!
In other words, who knows?!
Funny...
cellomould
"In other words, your God is the warden of a prison where the only prisoner is your God." Jose Saramago, The Gospel According to Jesus Christ
i'm planning to travel to orlando florida this week along with my buddy patriot on a business trip.
is there anyone form orlando florida who will like to meet us while we're visiting orlando?
please email me.
Hey exodus et al,
I will be in Orlando next month....any one want to arrange an Orlando Apostafest 2, while we're thinking about it?
Too bad our paths won't cross, exodus.
cellomould
"In other words, your God is the warden of a prison where the only prisoner is your God." Jose Saramago, The Gospel According to Jesus Christ
were the ancient civilisations far more technologically advanced than previously has been given credit for?
did they possess advanced weaponry systems?
do the scriptures back this up?.
Hey Celtic!
Sorry to hear that you're 25 and out.
I have heard about this old city in India that predates most estimates for the beginnings of civilization.
Did you see any pictures?
I will have to look this up again later, as I don't have time now.
Thanks,
cellomould
"In other words, your God is the warden of a prison where the only prisoner is your God." Jose Saramago, The Gospel According to Jesus Christ
to me, one of the most pathetic and lamest of all watchtower teachings is the fantasy that satan and the demons rule the world.
the witnesses are terrified of these demons getting into their minds through everything from wearing old clothes bought at the thrift store to smoking cigarettes (remember all drugs give demons easy access to your mind.).
they would have you believe that each country on earth is controlled by really big mean and tough demons (hey demons cant be nice you know) and they are actively controlling the minds of the political leaders in a global chess game because they have nothing better to do.. i was wondering then if anyone can show me a single itsy bitsy tiny amount of evidence to show any credible physical evidence or logical/metaphysical reasoning to back the jw ideological boogey men.
You Know,
You are right here in a way:
So it's not necessary to control each cow if you steer the herd, because of the so-called herd mentality.But you must control at least one cow. That is the point I am making. One cow sees you making signals or feels your lash on his back... then the others simply follow.
You can't control any cows much less a whole herd if none of them can see you.
Another good example is in a flock of birds. It seems almost magical that they fly in such organized formations and follow without hesitation the smallest change in direction. However, this is not magic.
The V-formation actually helps the rear birds expend less energy. What they are doing is staying in the wake of the bird or birds in front of them. And they are very, very efficient at that!
This is a very good example of social evolution, but I digress...
cellomould
"In other words, your God is the warden of a prison where the only prisoner is your God." Jose Saramago, The Gospel According to Jesus Christ
i just found out my father died today...he had a heart attack in the middle of the night.
he was 63, one month shy of his 64th birthday.
my 1/2 brother, age 19, who has been living with him trying to get off drugs, found him in his bed.
((((((puffsrule)))))))
So sorry to hear about your father.
Lots of love,
cellomould
"In other words, your God is the warden of a prison where the only prisoner is your God." Jose Saramago, The Gospel According to Jesus Christ
i haven't posted more than a reply or two to various topics these last few weeks.
i haven't seen any evidence of my mom (mulan) in as long.. i have started to post the whole story but it is too long and probably unbelievable.
anyway, here is the short version.. 89 year old grandma fell and broke a vertabrae.
Princess,
My feelings are with you here.
I can't understand why people really think they are more likely to get what they want from manipulation. They are actually less likely to have their needs met, imo... this seems to reinforce their silly behavior.
Why not just ask, especially if you really need something?
That shows you trust the person in question, and they will thus be more likely to trust you and lovingly help you.
This is something we should all be concious of:
Putting our pride aside, identifying where we need help, and asking.
((((((Princess)))))), you know you tried very hard to help your grandmother. If she didn't accept your love as such, then you don't have too much left you can do.
cellomould
"In other words, your God is the warden of a prison where the only prisoner is your God." Jose Saramago, The Gospel According to Jesus Christ
to me, one of the most pathetic and lamest of all watchtower teachings is the fantasy that satan and the demons rule the world.
the witnesses are terrified of these demons getting into their minds through everything from wearing old clothes bought at the thrift store to smoking cigarettes (remember all drugs give demons easy access to your mind.).
they would have you believe that each country on earth is controlled by really big mean and tough demons (hey demons cant be nice you know) and they are actively controlling the minds of the political leaders in a global chess game because they have nothing better to do.. i was wondering then if anyone can show me a single itsy bitsy tiny amount of evidence to show any credible physical evidence or logical/metaphysical reasoning to back the jw ideological boogey men.
Hi You Know,
You pointed out the crux of the discussion here:
The demons don't control the world through individuals. The way the Bible describes it, their malevolent spirit simply permeates society as a whole----like the air that surrounds us. Because they have exerted their influence over successive generations they are able to control society through the philosophical underpinnings of various institutions and organizations that have been established for centuries in some cases.So what do you really think about this?
Do you think it's really possible to control society without controlling individual minds?
The only alternative to controlling individuals' minds, and thus their actions is this: if they could control time itself, causing certain events to align.
That is a bit of a reach though, as I think you will agree.
I gave this subject a lot of thought, and realized it is impossible to control society without controlling individual behavior.
For example, if the demons influence society's taste in movies and entertainment... it must boil down to decisions that individual's make. If another movie glorifying the occult is about to be released, this is because: (1) People have consistently chosen to watch such movies. This amounts to individual choice, no more (2) A director, producer, writer etc, group of people recognize trends in popularity and choose to make a movie about the occult.
So in looking at this example, where we agree individals' choices are exercised, can we extrapolate backward?
Try it... go backward in time, following patterns to their roots. You will see that always you end at an individual. In other words, there is nothing to control besides individuals' thoughts and behaviors.
And the demons aren't supposed to be able to do this. (? - or so says the WT) So either: (1) the demons can control you mind and mine, or (2) something else is responsible, and there are no demons.
From a lot of reasoning and reading I have done, I put my stock in (2).
cellomould
"In other words, your God is the warden of a prison where the only prisoner is your God." Jose Saramago, The Gospel According to Jesus Christ
the norwegian newspaper vg, reports: iraqi general nizar al-khazraji was the man behind the butchering of 180,000 iraqi kurds in 1988. he was one of saddam's faithful generals.
he later had to flee iraq and is living on a secret address in denmark.
he is under investigation by the danish police.. ---------------------------------------------------.
Hey JanH,
I've not been around for a coupla days, but I have to LOL @ this:
I find it astonishing that Americans here (and yes, that means USians) seems to think that any help should buy eternal, blind adoration.Some very good discussion is going on here. So what can be done by savvy US citizens to influence US policy?
Influence is the key word here. Are persuasion and even propoganda ethical means to get the message out to the average self-absorbed 'American' that our country needs to be MORE ethical in its foreign policy?
That's quite a loaded question....rephrased: If your motives are pure, is it right to manipulate others in order to achieve good?
I am leaning towards a no to that.
Any suggestions? Something needs to be done, as we know.
cellomould
"In other words, your God is the warden of a prison where the only prisoner is your God." Jose Saramago, The Gospel According to Jesus Christ
reasons why the english language is hard to learn:.
1. the bandage was wound around the wound.. 2. the farm was used to produce produce.. 3. the dump was so full that it had to refuse more refuse.. 4. we must polish the polish furniture.. 5. he could lead if he would get the lead out.. 6. the soldier decided to desert his dessert in the desert.. 7. since there is no time like the present, he thought it was time to present the present.. 8. a bass was painted on the head of the bass drum.. 9. when shot at, the dove dove into the bushes.. 10. i did not object to the object.. 11. the insurance was invalid for the invalid.. 12. there was a row among the oarsmen about how to row.. 13. they were too close to the door to close it.. 14. the buck does funny things when the does are present.. 15. a seamstress and a sewer fell down into a sewer line.. 16. to help with planting, the farmer taught his sow to sow.. 17. the wind was too strong to wind the sail.. 18. after a number of injections my jaw got number.. 19. upon seeing the tear in the painting i shed a tear.. 20. i had to subject the subject to a series of tests.. 21. how can i intimate this to my most intimate friend?.
let's face it - english is a crazy language.. there is no egg in eggplant nor ham in hamburger; neither apple.
Celia,
I am just kidding. I love french; but yeah, it sure is complicated.
cellomould
"In other words, your God is the warden of a prison where the only prisoner is your God." Jose Saramago, The Gospel According to Jesus Christ
