Posts by cellomould

"and when the president of the united states refers to sharon as a man of peace, i'm sure that sharon feels insulted.. "but the point is: why, then, does the united states support this?

it's not because there's a zionist lobby.

as a matter of fact, some of the worst anti-semites in the united states, are the so-called pro-armageddon christian fundamentalists.

cellomould

I bet the WT taught you how to take quotes out of context... Shouldn't you have checked LaRouche's objectives before lauding him as a prophet?

http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.asp?id=20024&site=3

Looks like he pulled your card this time.

LOL LOL <wink>

cellomould

"You're crying 'why am I the victim?' when the culprit is YOU" Stevie Wonder

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LaRouche Throws You Know a Mirror!!!

by cellomould in

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"and when the president of the united states refers to sharon as a man of peace, i'm sure that sharon feels insulted.. "but the point is: why, then, does the united states support this?

it's not because there's a zionist lobby.

as a matter of fact, some of the worst anti-semites in the united states, are the so-called pro-armageddon christian fundamentalists.

cellomould

"And when the President of the United States refers to Sharon as a man of peace, I'm sure that Sharon feels insulted.

"But the point is: Why, then, does the United States support this? It's not because there's a Zionist Lobby. As a matter of fact, some of the worst anti-Semites in the United States, are the so-called pro-Armageddon Christian fundamentalists. They're anti-Semitic. Anyone who comes from the southern part of the United States knows that. These guys were, these are the real anti-Semites in the United States. These are the real Nazis. They think like fascists, anyway. You think these guys like Jews? No! They don't care about Jews. They don't care about that. What they care about is their policy. They're saying, look, if you can get the Rapture next week, I don't have to pay my rent next month! I mean, it's that bad. We have created a society of madmen in these so-called “thunder cults,” these thunder religious cults inside the United States. They're crazy. Psychotic, in effect. Not in the real world."

from
http://larouchein2004.net/pages/speeches/2002/020501webcast.htm

cellomould

"You're crying 'why am I the victim?' when the culprit is YOU" Stevie Wonder

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Women say JWs downplay sex abuse

by Dogpatch in

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women say jehovah's witnesses downplay sex abuse.

http://www.tennessean.com/local/archives/02/05/17601862.shtml?element_id=17601862.

two middle tennessee women said they have a full understanding of a tullahoma woman's claim that the jehovah's witnesses organization has downplayed or ignored child sexual abuse for years.. ''in fact, nothing happened to the man who molested me,'' said melissa trice, 30, of spring hill, about an incident she says occurred in shelbyville 22 years ago.. ''one of the elders asked me, 'what were you wearing?

cellomould

Randy,

by the way, are you related to Lee Watters from Bethel?
Just curious.

cellomould

"You're crying 'why am I the victim?' when the culprit is YOU" Stevie Wonder

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Who Pays The Ferryman....?

by hillary_step in

french philosopher blaise pascal once noted, "men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as when they do it from religious conviction.

" a case study for this statement can clearly be evidenced by the governing body of jehovahs witnesses.. the gb present themselves as lovers of truth and righteousness who are the only persons on this planet who speak for god.

this doctrine is at the very core of the beliefs of jehovahs witnesses and is one of the few that cannot be rationalized away by wts apologists.

cellomould

H_Step,

You have certainly seen many things. I can only imagine what others, still struggling with faith in JWdom, are living through right now.

Your title reminds me of a recent movie, From Hell, where the investigator puts pennies on the eyes of the victims of Jack the Ripper. Quite a startling imagery.

But another key feature of this movie is that responsibility for evil is pushed away by many guilty parties. The lengths to which people go 'wash the blood from their hands' is astounding.

Well I have seen a new meaning in the 'pennies for the ferryman' myth. Thanks for sharing,

cellomould

"You're crying 'why am I the victim?' when the culprit is YOU" Stevie Wonder

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Correction: Dateline says 10:PM Eastern

by Amazing in

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edit: maybe i goofed.

i did not watch dateline tonight, and did not hear stone philips say it would be shown at 7:00 pm eastern.

this is better, because family and some friends on the west coast will have it easier.

cellomould

The basketball game will air at 9:00 pm ET. This should be no problem if Dateline is to air at 8 pm ET.

But 10 pm?

Anyhow, I am sure that one event will not be preempted for the other. Both have been scheduled for quite some time.

cellomould

"You're crying 'why am I the victim?' when the culprit is YOU" Stevie Wonder

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Who was right? Satan or Jehovah?

by professor in

satan is called the "father of the lie" because he told the very first lie to eve.. in the beginning, god told adam to go nuts and eat all the fruit except the fruit from the tree in the middle of the garden.

he said "but of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil you shall not eat, for in the day that you eat of it you shall die.

so then fast forward, eve was created and she's hanging out by the tree, talking to the serpent (satan) and satan says: "you will not die.

cellomould

You make a good point, Professor. But recall that the Genesis account does not use the name "Satan". It simply says "serpent".

God, according to the account, cursed the serpent by making it slither on its belly and making it eat dust.

We have to wait until the NT to get the "new light" that the original serpent is none other than Satan. Somewhere in those few thousand years, someone decided that God was too good to be evil also, so Satan was "created". (The concept of an antithesis to God was largely borrowed from Zoroastrian philosophy.)

So going back to Genesis (with a parallel in Job, the 1st chapter of which is a later interpolation, and only one of two places in the OT where "Satan" is mentioned) we see a God that embodies both good and evil.

In early religious philosophy, every event was God's doing.

So without "Satan" in the Garden of Eden, which is how the story was first understood, this paradox is unraveled.

'The serpent was the most cautious of all the beasts...'

Yes, God cursed the serpent, but it is quite clear that the serpent was originally intended to be a voice of wisdom or reason.

cellomould

"You're crying 'why am I the victim?' when the culprit is YOU" Stevie Wonder

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