Posts by Celtic

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Beware of Dying Religions!

by metatron in

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why terrorism?.

kamikaze airplanes appeared towards the end of the war with.

japan - they were a sign of desperation, of imminent defeat.. a recent editorial about bin laden points out that his group.

Celtic

I think it works both ways, fair view though.

Dan - hear hear

peace to you both

celtic

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Watchtower charities and nonprofit organizations

by Kent in

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i followed the link on the "support freedom" banner, and checked out "guidestar".

http://www.guidestar.org.

a search for "watchtower", naturally came up with their "charitable" work, and it's really impressive!.

Over the past four years of research upon international disaster engineering and management and in that time not coming upon the WT org mentioned even once, I put this question of community pro-active activity to them over the phone recently and their charitable status in the UK.

The Charity Commission UK has virtually the same listing as the one you have used as a factual example. Needless to say the WT London HQ didn't really give me any weighty answers of substance. Fobbed off, even my parents, still in, were surprised at their cold feelings on the related subjects.

As you know Kent I work with The Community Action Network, an independent think tank in London on issues of social exclusion and community regeneration, environment and sustainability. If you need imformation at any time please feel free to ask for it or if you would like for me on your behalf to post questions within the think tank on your behalf too, please feel free to ask.

Part of my profile on the network describes my activities in connection with assisting ex cult members.

Thanks for that one matey.

peace & balmypotimessimessinism-ism-sum

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Tel the society today London HQ

by Celtic in

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using the leverage of the membership of the can think tank today i rang the london hq to put a question or two towards them.. i asked on two occassions for the legal & then the media depts.

the 'sisters' on front of desk duty told me that brothers were not available for questions due to being in 'meetings'.

ummmm.

Celtic

Hi Lisa!!

Usually when I ring them I tell them straightaway my name and the people I work for within the independent think tank, I use that for a bit of leverage only even though it is true.

Apart from that I with hold my number via 141

peace - celtic

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JW's get mention (haha) in UK parliament

by Celtic in

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still to learn how to do this cut and paste thingymejiggy.. if you type jehovahs witnesses into the search engine ananova, when the page displays click upon the 'gummer' story (mp).

if someone could post it into the main forum i'd appreciate it.. chins up

Celtic

Thankyou Ven!!

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Can anyone give me the Bethel Phone #?

by puppylove in

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i would like to call and see what things they are doing for relief efforts in nyc.

Celtic

London Number too without country code, the 020 is the capitals area code:

020 8906 2211

peace - celtic UK

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Destruction of the Trade Centers: Occult Symbolism

by Treborr Jones in

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are you buying into the terrorist attacks?

not me.. tr http://hardtruth.topcities.com/destruction_of_the_trade_centers.htm

Celtic

Ummmm Seen all this before. Interesting site, will check back to read it properly later.

The last solar eclipse of the mellemnium occured on August 11 and in my home town Falmouth Cornwall UK, the line of totality was only 2 miles away dead centre. Now there are many who believe that this town is cursed from somewhere in its ancienct celtic pagan past, for the eclipse timing was 11:11am on the 11th August. Make of that what you will.

I was organising an astromony conference at the time.

peace - Celtic

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Who Do You Really Love Best?

by Englishman in

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jw's teach that one should love jehovah more than anyone else in existence, your parents, your partner, your children.. did you really, really love jehovah that much when you were a witness?

or was there a part of you that put this question to one side because, deep down, you knew that no-one was going to get the lions share of your love other than your close family?.

also, was there a little niggle that it was unreasonable for jehovah to ask this much of you?

Celtic

I just kind of answered this in a confused kind of way to replies from my last post further down the page.

I always got the impression even whilst I was very younf, in fact for as long as I can remember that God as taught by the WT hated my guts and i always knew deep down that He didn't want me to go through armageddon. I remember telling the elders and my parents donkey's years ago that I felt like Moses on top of the mountain being able to see the promised land but knowing that the entry for me was barred.

Therefore, how on earth was I to build up a relationship with this God when from the beginning I was snookered into a position I could do nothing about anyway? All i ever saw as a witness was this blackness, this insurmountable wall of darkness and God terrified the living daylights out of me.

Now? Who knows? Perhaps there really is more peace and life in death than in living this hell?

Whilst I'm here though i want to deceive the odds and remain a bloody cheerful old blighter and continually look now on the bright side of life.

Thanks for the question.

Chin up

celtic

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The Bible Code ???

by Celtic in

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i guess we were all brought up on perfection theories quite a bit.. anyone here know anything about the bible code, the torah and among other things, cryptology, frequential analysis and mathematical analysis?.

cos if so, theres a few things on my mind concerning recent events that i would like to converse with in more depth.. why did i ever ask why?.

words fail me in light of recent events how to tail off this request, my expression though, is one of warmth, encouragement and compassion to everyone whatever nationality and wherever you are on this beautiful, crazy planet.. and thanks onen hag oll (one and all) for assisting me in coming to more of an understanding of myself and the reassurance and knowledge that i wasn't totally alone.. so many questions...

Celtic

Cheers for your replies everyone!!

It crossed my mind after I posted the haphazardness of statistical data, or at least the agenda attached to anyone prophecying a Bible code.

I guess I was just thinking about the whole God thing. I find God the most puzzling of creatures. As much as I would like to put my total trust and belief in this Guy, i cant help but wonder at the banality of the way in which He has organised things down here.

I get the sense that were not getting the whole picture from him, for what reason I cannot really imagine, for so much seems to be incomprehensible, full of paradoxes if you question too much.

Here you have this Grand Creator who in in His absolute perfection, knowing the alpha and the omega, the end result from the beginning - ??? - and yet i would have thought from my illogical human perspective, even though apparently i am made in the image of Him, albeit with half my nature full of flaws, that it was a tad unwise to create everything like this and so bloody confusing.

Why doesn't He just give us the whole picture in one simple go, rather than some complicated long winded book which in total is hard to decipher its / His complete meaning and life purpose for us?

If He knew from His nature that everything was going to cock up from the end, in our beginning, why on earth do it and further expect us to comprehensively understand it? What banality!!

Frankly I'm getting tired of all this - did God really want me to end up an agnostic?

If he was perfect, that is knowing all things even that which is totally beyond our human comprehension, surely He could have come up with another way of doing things which inevitably would be fairer to us down here, even maintaining freewill still. if it is impossible for Him to lie, then why in His infinite wisdom didn't He do it all differently rather than setting us up to fail in the first place.

I was only born in 1966. As far as i know this is the first time I've been on this planet, but streuth, how the hell am I to make sense of all this mess.

If I am made in His image, therefore a reflection of what is above, so below, just looking at myself therefore, and God doesn't appear to be as great as some make out. If someone does a really shoddy job of something, do we in turn look to this person and tell them the truth or a white lie? What purpose is being served to meet out all this un-nessarsary pain and suffering on peoples around the earth?

How do I respect someone for creating something even in perfection which has obvious flaws in it?

Does God have a mother? I know I have one. I know I am supposed to be made as a human in His image, then that being the case, does He have a mum too? I wonder what she is like and wonder whether yet she has clipped Him across the ear for being a naughty boy?

assuming the mother hypothesis to be incorrect, what about the other side of God? Does God have a flawed nature? Does he have a darker side to Him that He doesn't want any of us to know about? And if so, what does that represent?

Now there is this thing called the consciousness of humanity living on the earth, but not content to wonder alone at our own nature without God coming into the equation, the most puzzling thing is understanding the nature of this intangible invisible presence apparently called God. But He is outside of me, therefore must I think about the thinking behind thinking to understand my own relationship to myself and any relationship with a greater unseen invisible being.

Two guys I respected in the Bible the most, King Solomon the party animal and womaniser, lucky sod and Jesus Christ. Much as i find His father bewildering to say the least, at least Jesus comes across as a far more understandable fellow. I still think He's pretty cool.

Am i condemned to hell, sheol for my confusion in my life? Was i right to question as much as i did?

My giddy aunt, what on earth is the point of it all?

To all those feeling sad at the moment I pass on my warmth, encouragement and motivation to keep looking at the bright side of life.

celtic

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JW's get mention (haha) in UK parliament

by Celtic in

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friends

still to learn how to do this cut and paste thingymejiggy.. if you type jehovahs witnesses into the search engine ananova, when the page displays click upon the 'gummer' story (mp).

if someone could post it into the main forum i'd appreciate it.. chins up

Celtic

Still to learn how to do this cut and paste thingymejiggy.

If you type jehovahs witnesses into the search engine ananova, when the page displays click upon the 'gummer' story (MP)

If someone could post it into the main forum I'd appreciate it.

Chins up

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The Bible Code ???

by Celtic in

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friends

i guess we were all brought up on perfection theories quite a bit.. anyone here know anything about the bible code, the torah and among other things, cryptology, frequential analysis and mathematical analysis?.

cos if so, theres a few things on my mind concerning recent events that i would like to converse with in more depth.. why did i ever ask why?.

words fail me in light of recent events how to tail off this request, my expression though, is one of warmth, encouragement and compassion to everyone whatever nationality and wherever you are on this beautiful, crazy planet.. and thanks onen hag oll (one and all) for assisting me in coming to more of an understanding of myself and the reassurance and knowledge that i wasn't totally alone.. so many questions...

Celtic

I guess we were all brought up on perfection theories quite a bit.

Anyone here know anything about the Bible code, the Torah and among other things, cryptology, frequential analysis and mathematical analysis?

Cos if so, theres a few things on my mind concerning recent events that I would like to converse with in more depth.

Why did i ever ask why?

Words fail me in light of recent events how to tail off this request, my expression though, is one of warmth, encouragement and compassion to everyone whatever nationality and wherever you are on this beautiful, crazy planet.

And thanks onen hag oll (one and all) for assisting me in coming to more of an understanding of myself and the reassurance and knowledge that I wasn't totally alone.

So many questions...