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  Watchtower June 15 2015, Misleading Reference to Past Statement...

  by BluesBrother in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  if this has been posted up before, then i missed it...... they call this organization "the truth" so we might expect it to be accurate .

  they themselves they have previously championed honesty :.

  live with jehovahs day in mind (2006) p115 par 9.

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  PokerPlayerPhil

  Thank's for keeping us updated, did not run across this information and how true as you wrote quoting "1984" and the fact of creating a false past to avoid dealing with their hopeless future. The Internet and facts you provide to JWs are what is bringing us out of the Cult, not invading their unhappy Memorials by yelling and screaming or photographing people when their vulnerable. You remember that saying "Just the facts baby and nothing more", that's what's killing their religion, not outbursts or trouble making!

  "Sounds different to me. He may have spoke of the end of the Gentile Times, which they have chosen to stick with, but the reality is totally different.

  In Orwell's 1984 it is acknowledged that "He who controls the past controls the future. He who controls the present controls the past.”...

  it seems that the WT writers went to the Orwell school of disinformation but we have news for you WTS...In the 21st Century nobody controls the present medium!"

  BluesBro
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  And so it begins...

  by StarTrekAngel in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  wife and i have not reported a single hour of fs in 3-4 months.

  while my wife is mostly doing for me (positive thing), i know she would have rather done it.

  elder asked me to turn in my fs report this past week and then he added... "we need to talk".

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  PokerPlayerPhil

  I wish I had the power of the Q because they have been calling me for my time too. This is my first Memorial I missed and life did not end like I thought it might. Remember when Q brought Picard's ship within the Borg's sector of the Universe to shake Picard's arrogance or Hubris up and Picard appreciated it even though this speed up the process of the Borg approaching the United Federation of Planets.

  We are now like Picard and by not turning in our Field Report it's attracting the attention of the Borg bringing them closer to our personal freedom. Can anyone help us with next step in avoiding attracting the Borg invasion of our space? Please advise because I am in your situation too!

  If I had the Q's power, the collective power, I could wish them away and put them on some deserted planet where they all could experience the true lack of love of JWs, let them serve the Governing Body while they sit on their ass like Mormons tried with Collectivism in the 1800s, that failed badly as young and hard working members got sick of turning in all their hard work and sharing with Mormons who did not work or care,just takers!
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  Petition to Revoke Scientology's Tax Exempt Status

  by ABibleStudent in

  1. social
  2. current

  fyi, if you feel that scientology's tax-exempt status should be revoked, you can sign a white house petition to revoke its tax-exempt status at https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/revoke-scientologys-tax-exempt-status.. i signed the petition even though i have mixed feelings about this petition.

  i would prefer that dangerous cults like scientology be reformed by suspending its tax-exempt status until it makes needed changes and i do not like targeting a specific organization when the whole system should be changed.

  on the other hand this type of action may help to promote debate about revising the tax codes in the us.. i do prefer revising the tax code like i wrote about in revise tax code to protect children from sexual abuse .. peace be with you and everyone, who you love,.

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  PokerPlayerPhil

  Does Scientology do anything of value for the World Governments or humanity, if so can you explain because I don't know much about their religion and practices.
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  These guys crash a Kingdom Hall on Memorial, video included

  by Crazyguy in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=7mars2mtaui.

  to funny nice job....

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  PokerPlayerPhil

  Gayle your too reasonable and this is what I don't miss about attending the meetings now. My first Memorial alone was weird, there were nagging feelings like "what if I am wrong" to which I spent reading forums and reinforcing I have left a Cult, not the Truth to which I am seeking now.. If people had did what they did when my mind was conditioned with the "Persecution Complex" I would have felt "yes, I am doing Jehovah's will and this are Satan's minions attacking us. I don't see the good because you all remember reading about the attacks in Russia, Poland, Africa and many of you were praying for attacks to cease so why is attacking them at their gathering place good?

  Gayle we are so lucky to live in a Country that holds those articles with deep conviction! Your valid points with core doctrines our great grandparents fought for should not be tossed out the door because our feelings are hurt.

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  irst Amendment

  Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press, or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petitition the Government for a redress of grievances. We should not break the law or right of people to 'peaceably' assemble in order to make our point."
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  Article: Indiana man, a JW, now in prison asks local Muslims for forgiveness for setting fire to their prayer room in the Islamic Center

  by AndersonsInfo in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  http://www.toledoblade.com/religion/2015/04/05/arsonist-asks-local-muslims-for-forgiveness.html.

  the fire was set in the prayer room.

  damage from smoke and water used to extinguish the september, 2012, blaze caused the islamic center of greater toledo to stay closed until spring of 2013.

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  PokerPlayerPhil

  It reads like he was former military and not a JW, the same impression you got. If he became a witness in prison that might explain his apology letter because the elders would ask him to do such a thing to get a reduced sentence?

  No mention of Jehovah Witness ties, only he wanted revenge for his fallen soldiers by terrorists.

  http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/12/20/randy-linn-burn-mosque-revenge_n_2337514.html
  
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  These guys crash a Kingdom Hall on Memorial, video included

  by Crazyguy in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=7mars2mtaui.

  to funny nice job....

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  PokerPlayerPhil

  We looked forward in a twisted way to the persecution the Watchtower society said was coming our way because of our pure stance on truth. There are better ways that actually are working at "Reverse Witnessing" but this sadly misses the mark. I wrote my thread of all the pain and suffering the Watchtower Society and it's unfaithful clergy class caused with me and helped expedite my divorce and loss of family. Your only giving the Watchtower what they desire, this ain't persecution, it's giving them something to complain about and soon your going to cause a Media firestorm for harassing the poor JWs!

  The Road to Hell is Paved with Good Intentions (real or not), there are better ways to expose this crazy group of Doomsday Preachers.

  "I think the reality is that a lot of these kinds of actions are more about satisfying the needs of the people doing them than really being about helping or convincing others.

  Actually, I don't think it really even makes the people doing it feel better. I think it satisfies some need for revenge but I doubt people really feel contented because of what they do.

  But people have the right to make their own choices and decide to act how they want as long as they don't presume to represent everyone else or expect applause / complain about criticism."

  Simon

  
  

  
  

  It is about Revenge because I've dreamed about doing things but the rational part of me said "Your not going to feel any better and all it's going to do is make the JWs "Circle their wagons and trolley carts" as they scream "Persecution against the truth faith!"
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  How many members left the Watchtower because of all the Hatred and Anti-christian behavior? Were you exposed to betrayal, lies and slander against your family?

  by PokerPlayerPhil in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i am trying to wrap my head around 2014 and all the evil we experienced while the elders and overseer said "wait on jehovah because that's what all the true believers do!

  " and i explained it's too painful to see the wicked people who brought my family suffering giving talks and providing other witness families with instruction we are to use when the end comes.

  why are the quite members those who get treated like trash while members who call down evil upon the organization get everything they want so they will keep their mouths shut?.

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  I am trying to wrap my head around 2014 and all the evil we experienced while the Elders and Overseer said "Wait on Jehovah because that's what all the true believers do!" and I explained it's too painful to see the wicked people who brought my family suffering giving talks and providing other Witness families with instruction we are to use when the End comes. Why are the quite members those who get treated like trash while members who call down evil upon the Organization get everything they want so they will keep their mouths shut?

  How many members here were treated in unspeakable ways by bad men and women while the entire Congregational Members sat on their arses(not willing to lift a finger to stop our suffering)doing nothing to stand up or make your life better? The Kingdom Halls are not brave, often their very cowardly and don't challenge bad decisions made by wicked men. How long did it take for you to leave the Organization after repeated assaults against your character and family, reading posts by fellow members is it any wonder we stayed under their umbrella of hatred to avoid getting pissed on by the Witnesses only to be told, "that's Satan's rain, stay under this snug umbrella to avoid getting wet because, 'where will you go if you leave?' all of us were conditioned to obey the insane rules set before us.

  I left because of the slander and lies being spread by Jehovah's true followers of hatred, they are in now way a loving group of people, maybe one or two congregations are(I have never seen them, have you?) obeying Jesus word's while the vast majority practice willful hate!
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  Jehovah's Witnesses video slammed for threatening kids with death for not paying attention in church

  by dropoffyourkeylee in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  here is the link to a recent news article.

  maybe it was commented before, but today was the first i had seen it.. http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/jehovah-witnesses-video-slammed-threats-kids-article-1.2116873.

  i guess caleb is getting around.

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  PokerPlayerPhil

  The Witnesses had free reign to tell the readers of this newspaper the Watchtower and Leaders "they not telling those kids their going to die if their not listening to the direction". it's Theocratic Warfare" at it's best as they lie to readers who don't know JWs are good telling half-truths.
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  The Secret is out....but nobody cares

  by MrTheocratic in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i've been looking on this site for some time but never posted.

  i'll give a little about myself, but not too much.

  i'm a ex-bethelite ( brooklyn )and currently serving as an elder (10 years) (thinking about stepping down) on the service committee.

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  PokerPlayerPhil

  "life is short" after dedicating yourself to a group with no natural affection for each other and pathological liars, users and often the rubbish of the world being placed on their high chair,how are you feeling now? What's been said by him is nothing new, the kids don't know the Bible, elders don't trust the eschatology and End Time doctrines had many shaking their heads.

  Elders use their positions to bully and pretend their something because in real life, these wanna-bees would not have a very high social standing. I've seen sisters like you living in a bad way, self-denial of your own dreams while shitty husbands would dump all your loyal service for a Cult that has the "disposable" attitude towards witnesses who can't deliver today. The Cult is all about "What have you dome for me Today, not "thank's for all your hard work over the past, thank you for living off nothing to ensure the message was delivered". they don't care and I am sorry your husband has not see the deep value your worth!
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  Why attack?

  by newqatarjob in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  as someone brought up as a jw and been an elder and been disfellowshipped (twice!!!

  ) i find it difficult to understand why ex jws have to attack the religion, yes religion, not cult or sect.

  i am no longer disfellowshipped just do not want to practice anymore.

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  PokerPlayerPhil

  Since when has this religion kept it's mouth shut when people try to exit quietly? They don't respect your personal rights and freedoms, as I wrote about a elder I saw who was spewing lies about me, I learned they are not good people to Bible students or non religious people who can't stomach their dangerous doctrines keeping their followers poor and educationally challenged.

  For a religion who attacks everyone with names and lots of hatred, why should they be left in peace if their active making people's lives filled with turmoil and trouble? I can't respect a religion that teaches hatred and has no control over many of their leaders, elders and rank-and-filed hateful members. Life is magically better without the rubber-necking and gossip JWs are notorious for. JWs don't practice what they preach, they want you to examine your religion while looking you straight in the face telling you "I have studied all religions and this religion I studied deeply is the Truth". They did not study the historical events that lead up to all their theology, all the history is hidden!