Posts by PokerPlayerPhil

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Is door to door activity over?

by badcompany in

jw
friends

just curious about others experience.

i've been living just a few miles from a kingdom hall for 9 years.

i've been called on 0 times.

PokerPlayerPhil

I've been to more Kingdom Halls over the last ten years than most of you because I was seeking "The grass is more greener or there's more love in Kingdom Hall A than in Kingdom Hall B and C." something nonexistent in our former Organization, a real love with friends who are loyal and care about everyone from each socio-economic background. I was wrong and now I've primed this pump for your question, the "door-to-door" work is dying a surprising rapid death as the transition to internet and literature cart's take's it place

The once Auxiliary Witnessing is now taking the place of time wasting and useless door-to-door work. Everyone is busy, the Watchtower is so out of touch with Average Americans their personal needs, problems and struggles each person's family is going through! Everyday it seems were provided with more data and surveys showing the Average American has less than $1000 in the bank and they are less than one month away from financial ruination. What is the Watchtower offering people who are struggling to stay afloat in one of the most unfair Economies in the World? With assholes like Ted Cruz telling these Born-Again Home Schooling Stay-At-Home Mothers "In My American I don't see Gays or Atheists!" Watchtower will get grouped together with the Fundies and more anger against even the least zealous religious people like the Watchtowerites will only prove their "door-to-door work" is dead!

I was warning a few people who are allowing the Watchtower Cult Members to talk to their College kids they need to rethink their position because Cults are attractive to kids who love to argue and fight with us ignorant parents. Teenagers and Twenty-somethings are know-it-alls and do think about things deeper than were giving them credit for, the problem is many parents are taking a laisefaire approach with religion and that's were these the Cult get's it's foothold, its the last bastion besides mentally ill and chronic depressed people who will listen to the Watchtower and their message of Doom N Gloomers!

What proof is there the Door-to-Door work has any value left, the Internet is killing the Cult's efforts because of this site and JW Facts! One day each Pubbie will be required to buy their own Cart so they can stand outside banks, grocery stores and Post Offices like they use to do years ago.

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World becoming more religious not less

by Stealth in

this is bad news for the evolution of humankind.

even worse, islam is the fastest growing religion.

http://www.livescience.com/50370-worlds-religious-population-will-grow.html?cmpid=nl_ls_weekly_2015-04-03 .

PokerPlayerPhil

It's a fact Islam is not a fair comparison to make against any other World Religion, Islam is growing because your not allowed to freely change or deny faith so readily. Experts in Middle Eastern culture say it's "The fastest religion because it forced, you can't wake up one day in these areas and say "oh dad by the way, I am not a believer in the Prophet, ok?".

Why can't these factors be presented in arguments when claims of each religions growth or decline is made, it's obvious your not safe saying what's inside your heart if you decide to stop having faith. China's growth with the xian religion is happening because scholars in think there's a bankruptcy of inside, Monotheistic religions like Xians, Islam and Judaism slide almost hand and hand with ancient Confucianism. I was watching videos on that colony Marco Polo discovered, the Jews in the Kai-Feng region. When Catholic friar in 1608 showed up to China, it's reported a Jew from Kai-Feng traveled to talk with the Friar only to leave disheartened because of the Friar's love of pork and misunderstanding who the Friar was bowing to (Jesus and Mary).

Friars were seeking out older texts they thought would predate the First Century, a thriving Jewish Community from 700 AD to 1800 AD until it disappeared.

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World becoming more religious not less

by Stealth in

this is bad news for the evolution of humankind.

even worse, islam is the fastest growing religion.

http://www.livescience.com/50370-worlds-religious-population-will-grow.html?cmpid=nl_ls_weekly_2015-04-03 .

PokerPlayerPhil

Will China become the largest Christian Nation in the World, i've heard tell of this for years and now with all their wealth and longing after decades of corruption and State Sponsored anti-religion, why is one of the largest educated groups changing?

http://www.slate.com/bigideas/what-is-the-future-of-religion/essays-and-opinions/fenggang-yang-opinion

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Tsarnaev guilty - should he get death or not?

by Simon in

i think he probably will (it is the us after all) but i hope he doesn't.

he caused incredible pain and suffering to men, women and children who had never done anything to him.

many died in unimaginable agony, others are disabled for life.

PokerPlayerPhil

If you put him in a jail in Death Valley, California or Arizona with "Sheriff Joe", we need him to experience pain horrendous pain (Shawshank Redemption?) and suffering in some run down prison where he's feed Banquet Pork potpies and Strawberry Quick for all three-squares.. Colorado has some radical leaders inside their Super-max prison system, I wish he was in a prison like the Costa Rican or Panamanian 'Prison Break" show not a clean Super-Max.

He's going to write a book, get a movie made about him and have crazy people writing him (Fan girls), you sure you want him to use up resources that would be better expended on your kids or gran kids?

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NEW 2012 Elders book with 2015 Amendments

by Newly Enlightened in

thanks to jw archive wiki we have a pdf of the new elders book.. https://www.dropbox.com/s/mz9z38909t3fh7c/2012-shepherd-the-flock-of-god-ks10_e.pdf?dl=0.

PokerPlayerPhil

Did you know the Elders under the older regimes would have a young child crossed examined by the pedophile who molested her/him? This false religion makes me want to puke, as spoken by the majority "God has nothing to do with the Watchtower form of devotion to a man-made organization". They condemn themselves in their own writings and this Elder Book is nothing more than self damnation!

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What I Saw & Heard in the Oral Argument Hearing on January 14, 2015

by ABibleStudent in

im not an attorney and i could not record the hearing, so please forgive me if i make mistakes in relating what i remember of the oral argument hearing for jane doe (i.e., candace conti) versus the watchtower bible & tract society on january 14, 2015 and the length of this post.. i arrived at the civic center/union plaza in san francisco, ca about 7:30. the area is very nice with a few homeless people sleeping in the park across from the courthouse.

it took me about 10 minutes to find the clerks office for the court on the first floor, which opened at 8:00.. once the clerks office opened, the two clerks who i talked with were very polite and helpful.

the arguments for jane doe (i.e., candace conti) versus the watchtower bible & tract society were scheduled 5th out of (i think) 8. while i was in the office a cameraman and another person for nbc arrived asking about the hearing for candace contis case.. the courtroom for the 1st appellate court is on the 4th floor and takes up most of that floor.

PokerPlayerPhil

Please tell me that Candace is not going to lose this lawsuit and your views it the Watchtower must confess their sins to the public court of opinion. I don't like the Watchtower hurting people and often they hurt the victims, not the perps!

I am so sorry Ms Conti! All we can do is pray God, the Universe will punish these wicked doers!

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Shepherding textbook in digital format 2012 Printing

by hildebrando in

"the watchtower is butchering the 2010 elders manual, and has released this new one to all elders.

to many court cases involve exposing the 2010 elder manual, so now the watchtower is changing a few things with this new one".

(authorized).

PokerPlayerPhil

Can you put these links on outside the western words servers so the Watchtower can't take the down? Thank you for making the Watchtower so transparent, they don't deserve any secrets either!

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Has Anyone Been Pressured to Use the Elders to Judge a Secular Dispute?

by berrygerry in

page 133 of the flock book states that "paul gave strong counsel" about taking a brother to court.. the most pertinent reference is the nov 15, 1973 wt qfr.. that article says:.

"here paul was showing the corinthian christians the inconsistency of taking disputes between christians before secular tribunals.

the judges would be men who were not governed by the lofty principles of gods law and whose consciences were not trained through a study of his word.

PokerPlayerPhil

My family was ripped off by one of the Elders and the Elders kept telling me they could get this brother to pay what was owed, they totally failed!

Mother was ripped off by Jehovah's Witnesses and she too was told, "Just wait upon Jehovah and know the Brothers are doing their best to resolve this without using Satan's unclean judicial system(unclean, dirty, why did mother get ripped off from holy jws?).

There's a brother who was financial planning and put all his elderly JWs in the most crazy mutual funds before the stock market crashed because it had a 9% fee to it's seller(brother Arse). When the friends ended up needing those funds because they thought there were sold short-term bonds they were totally screwed.

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When you were Hard-Core JW, did Opponents Screaming or Filming you help your Exit?

by PokerPlayerPhil in

all of us are upset in different ways, some of us are ferociously angry because, let's face it, it's our fault!

i had many clues they were lying about our religion but i failed to see through them because of the pain of admitting we got conned and family pressure from peers stopped me from making a courageous choice.

when i read about people who confronted the elders and won their judicial committees (even though the jw elders df'ed them) my heart goes out to their courage, their amazingly stronger than i will ever be.

PokerPlayerPhil

I wish I had the brains to examine my system of beliefs and why those people yelling at Dodger Stadium's near entrance and Assembly Halls in Woodland Hills were pissed off. Were lucky we have the ability and rights to protest unhealthy beliefs, other nations don't have our gift to express freely how they feel. I never would have seen myself appreciate nations with freedom of religion, as Jehovah's Witnesses we showed no appreciation and often I caught Witnesses cheating on their taxes, stealing from brothers and sisters and we had one big Ponzi Scam in San Diego, San Francisco, Florida, New York with the main goal of stealing from uneducated and unsophisticated Witnesses because the majority of Witnesses are not very savvy with their money and far too trusting for con-men to slip on in. Understanding their rage is easy using 20-20 hindsight vision, if only we did pay attention instead of our conditioned response of plugging our ears and covering our eyes.

The Watchtower is to blame 99% for many problems Jehovah's Witnesses encounted because from youth we were deceived with unreal expectations, poor thinking skills they drilled, inculcated (think of poor Caleb sitting on Tony Morris lap being told revisionist history) youth our ability to "trust our brothers", "Jehovah's Witnesses don't sue each other like the World does(that was BS!) because their closer to a new creation!) and we attacked the Catholic Church with a vengeance when the Pedophile Scandal erupted in a lawsuit and media frenzy in the 1990s(how soon our zealous leaders would be paid back for being so arrogant while throwing stones from our glass-fortress.

On a different website I met someone who is still in the Organization even though he was taken for $20,000 by the JW Sister running her scam under a "Pay-Day Loan shop. The only reason she got hammered was she took money from high ranks in her area and even as far as New York. funny when good things happen it's Jehovah's Organization and when bad and wicked actions occur we blame Satan attacking Jehovah's clean people.

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When you were Hard-Core JW, did Opponents Screaming or Filming you help your Exit?

by PokerPlayerPhil in

all of us are upset in different ways, some of us are ferociously angry because, let's face it, it's our fault!

i had many clues they were lying about our religion but i failed to see through them because of the pain of admitting we got conned and family pressure from peers stopped me from making a courageous choice.

when i read about people who confronted the elders and won their judicial committees (even though the jw elders df'ed them) my heart goes out to their courage, their amazingly stronger than i will ever be.

PokerPlayerPhil

Dear William, your right I needed to qualify my statement by saying that people "of age" (what age in your opinion is fair to accept the blame for not using our brains, I am so mad at my ignorance and failure to think but won't protest in a Kingdom Hall no matter how much anger that could,might or won't release) are guilty because there are high school kids who have picked the religion apart. I remember the Elders disfellowshiped a teenager for "apostasy" because of their inability to answer his sincere questions about the Organization.

What does that say about people like me who stayed in the Organization until I was treated badly and that's when I question it's validity? Shame on me, I tried to catch the teenager through Facebook and apologize because I refused to hear his arguments about the Truth being false. At what point is it our fault we allowed ourselves to coast along, refuse to engage with educated members of the world and admit as a religion, we are some of the most selfish people in the World?

Yes, I committed a "hasty generalization" error and apologize for not adding proper additions, when do you think it's our fault for failure to recognize we were not thinking and blindly led by a majority of ignorant tricked me too?