Hyde Park, I would enjoy listening to them debate with a few friends from JWN, just listening to a modern day Athens full of people telling stories, sharing philosophy as long as their peaceful. They get agitated in other videos when experienced debaters challenge them, this was one where he's not mad. Is Hyde Park still like this, is there water to feed the ducks if one does not feel like listening to people squabble over Existential things?
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Islamic Scholars Schools Atheist's Video! Hyde Park London Debate. Please Help Tear His Logic up, please!
by PokerPlayerPhil inhi, i watched this video and was greatly insulted by the tactics used by islamic apologist who claims he can defeat any atheist or non monotheists through his basic logic.
where do you begin, might be interesting if cofty debated this guy, no, i like cofty and don't want him getting jumped by all the followers who fall for this guys logical errors.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wtgnfzwjd0i.
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The Lawsuit Landslide: Irwin Zalkin representing ELEVEN child abuse victims against Watchtower
by cedars inmany of you will be interested to know that irwin zalkin now has 11 lawsuits against watchtower at various stages.. these can be summarized as follows.... j.l.
shocked by the lack of action, the victims mother immediately left the congregation with her son.
by this stage campos was a known predator with complaints having been made to the elders at linda vista spanish, playa pacifica spanish and the watchtower dating back to 1982.elizabeth mcfarland ohio a former ministerial servant named scott silvasy sexually molested elizabeth when she was a child through her early teens.
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I love your comments, your always ahead of the curve and this post from two years ago shows you saw how the Governing Body would use the Pedophile Paradise Exposed! as Satan's Agents persecuting them. Raj Bagwan tricked so many people, used all the resources to buy a large portion of Oregon and Rolls Royces said the FBI and IRS were attacking him falsely, Religion knows how to fleece the good leaving them spiritually "high and dry"!
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The long-awaited "persecution" has begun. It turns out it's not the glorious suffering we all imagined. It's a flood of lawsuits for protecting pedophiles.
Who would have thought it?"
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Am I the only "witness here besides the admins?
by TheOnlyRealWittnessHere inwith all the negativity here i was wondering if i am the only one here that's a witness.
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the topic pretty much says everything..
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Welcome, it's been less than a year since I started to seek answers regarding all the teachings that change twice a decade or sooner (the Generation Overlapping is what got me thinking). The hatred of all the key players in the Kingdom Hall and their treatment of the poor and mentally ill really got under my skin because many of the Jehovah's Witnesses elevated by their ambitious power seeking madness trampled over many good friends to secure a slot where they could play the prince over their brothers and sisters!
Welcome to a website you can share your experiences with, make sure your skin is tough because you will need it so your feelings are not easily hurt! Welcome friend!
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Reverse Witnessing Strategies When You Meet People Studying With JWs!
by PokerPlayerPhil intoday i had a great witness sharing websites about the watchtower and how many lives they limited by their superstitious teachings and high-group mind control.
i was pretty effective, i think he's going to quit his study and got his phone number in case this guy needs additional information.
he wants to believe in jesus christ, he's working for the government with a great job so it came as a surprise to him he is going to have to quit his job if he is to become a jehovah's witness.
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Today I had a great witness sharing websites about the Watchtower and how many lives they limited by their superstitious teachings and high-group mind control. I was pretty effective, I think he's going to quit his study and got his phone number in case this guy needs additional information. He wants to believe in Jesus Christ, he's working for the government with a great job so it came as a surprise to him he is going to have to quit his job if he is to become a Jehovah's Witness. This is how we are going to get the best pay-off for our time, we talked for two hours so my question to you is, how do I count my time? :)
If you have good ideas to help Reverse Witness please post what's helped you succeed in getting people away from this Mental Imprisoning Cult. Thank you a bunch!
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Islamic Scholars Schools Atheist's Video! Hyde Park London Debate. Please Help Tear His Logic up, please!
by PokerPlayerPhil inhi, i watched this video and was greatly insulted by the tactics used by islamic apologist who claims he can defeat any atheist or non monotheists through his basic logic.
where do you begin, might be interesting if cofty debated this guy, no, i like cofty and don't want him getting jumped by all the followers who fall for this guys logical errors.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wtgnfzwjd0i.
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He's applying the "Law of non contradiction" to a book that's filled with contradictions. Cofty, I heard from some sources at Hyde Park that people who had tables sharing Hinduism and atheism were chased away by these people teaching about the Prophet. Have you been to Hyde Park and engaged with any of them? He's got so many videos dedicated to the conversion of London, maybe you will run in to him. -
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Islamic Scholars Schools Atheist's Video! Hyde Park London Debate. Please Help Tear His Logic up, please!
by PokerPlayerPhil inhi, i watched this video and was greatly insulted by the tactics used by islamic apologist who claims he can defeat any atheist or non monotheists through his basic logic.
where do you begin, might be interesting if cofty debated this guy, no, i like cofty and don't want him getting jumped by all the followers who fall for this guys logical errors.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wtgnfzwjd0i.
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Cofty I felt bad for his opponent because this man was putting words in his mouth and got hyper by the second. He's at Hyde Park alot and uses these tactics on people of all faiths, he pretends to have a open mind yet like JWs will not look at his doctrinal past and all the errors in the Quran. There are members of his gang with different videos, they idolize him as some kind great teacher, his methods employed are devious. Someone sent me the link trying to convert me to Islam, I am not getting involved with another religion so shortly after quietly fading from the cult.
I find him shameful with lots of disrespect, watching it twice only depended it's effects of insult, what good sport the poor kid was! I watched "Rosewater" and if you get a chance anyone, Jon Stewart did a bang up job creating this film based off a Iranian Reporter who was stuck in jail, his jailers used "The Daily Shows" comedy remarks "Are you a terrorist" as part of his conviction! One thing I must say about Rosewater is people in Iranian jails were incredibly respectful to their jailers versus how Americans treat their prison guards, something to notice is how eager Iranians are, i had nothing but good experiences with Iranian people, they want to come to the West and see how we live. Please watch Rosewater because it shows a different side of the Middle East people we don't get to see because of all the bias on channels and trash spewed by angry people. Thank you Cofty for you evaluation on this video,will wait for additional comments before I send the person a reply.
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Islamic Scholars Schools Atheist's Video! Hyde Park London Debate. Please Help Tear His Logic up, please!
by PokerPlayerPhil inhi, i watched this video and was greatly insulted by the tactics used by islamic apologist who claims he can defeat any atheist or non monotheists through his basic logic.
where do you begin, might be interesting if cofty debated this guy, no, i like cofty and don't want him getting jumped by all the followers who fall for this guys logical errors.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wtgnfzwjd0i.
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Hi, I watched this video and was greatly insulted by the tactics used by Islamic apologist who claims he can defeat any atheist or non monotheists through his basic logic. Where do you begin, might be interesting if Cofty debated this guy, No, I like Cofty and don't want him getting jumped by all the followers who fall for this guys logical errors.
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Why are people burning their city to the ground in Baltimore? How doe Looting and Mob Violence Help?
by PokerPlayerPhil init's hard enough for businesses to enter these areas the government once had to offer up tax breaks to service them.
in watts, california it took decades for city residents to get a grocery store after the thugs burned their businesses to the ground.
you can see the insanity taking place, when you allow mobs and fools to burn building down nothing good comes from it.
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I don't think violent protest will solve anything either, fear never producing the outcome we all desire because one group will suffer. I am speaking about a protest, a grassroots movement coordinated by people who are trust worthy because these bums in office need a tossing out the door. Have your grandpa give you his signs from his teenage years that read "Throw All the Bums Out of Office!", they had those signs and stood out in front of their Reps offices and things got done. Something broke back when Rodney King was beaten to a pulp, it's been building like a slow growing cancer that's fully metastasized and now we noticed the symptoms finally. The Media helps by bringing it to our attention, it's not like they really care or want change, Fox News sure don't care how African Americans are. Fox News only cares how their Rich Patrons are, not the poor members struggling to make a living.
Simon you post about this being a issue of "rich vs poor" and not "black vs white" is so correct and people with run in's with the law since childhood nailed it! What can we do to change people who might get voted in under the promise of "Change" and nothing happens because their happy to wine and dine on the tax-payer's cash while being suited by Corporate America? What can we do besides feel powerless, if numbers from the WSJ and Bloomberg are true, the average household in the United States has less than $8000 in assets that can be readily turn to cash.
On another thread it's time to share another problem impacting the poor community being screwed out of their hard earned cash. Their parasites taking advantage of people who can't afford the costs yet have no choice but use their services.
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Why are people burning their city to the ground in Baltimore? How doe Looting and Mob Violence Help?
by PokerPlayerPhil init's hard enough for businesses to enter these areas the government once had to offer up tax breaks to service them.
in watts, california it took decades for city residents to get a grocery store after the thugs burned their businesses to the ground.
you can see the insanity taking place, when you allow mobs and fools to burn building down nothing good comes from it.
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The lack of change happening through peaceful protesting is definitely changing how groups are handling themselves. Look what happened three years ago with the "Wall Street" protesters that were pissed off they could not find jobs with degrees, were living with their parents and politicians were only worried about getting re-elected (you get a full pension after serving 5 years as a Senator and Congressman-woman), the March on Wall Street was a total failure with no follow up.
DOC makes a point that's ringing loud in the United States, I asked people what they think and surprisingly they are for a more active, less passive role in trying to make changes. The USA has toppled many Middle Eastern Governments through bloodshed and violence, nothing gets done through peaceful means here because the people are too disconnected with their fellows cause. If people were unified and thought the issues through like we do here, the politicians would be scared as hell and people like the Koch Brothers money would not mean shit! It's everyone who sits on the ass asking others to make the tough choices they should be doing by voting for better representation.
You want good cities, you want good wages, you want good food but your not willing to fight for these. If people really cared about others, Walmart would be out of business for hiring slave-labor, low-life leader of business practices instead of thriving. Why are people fighting each other instead of heading to the roots of these problems and going after those who destroyed the inner-city schools, stole money from programs to get kids from the worst parts of the city on track for a chance! Fox News Talking Heads preach "The American Dream is alive and well for everyone!", that's bullshit according to men like Malcom Gladwell(I know he's not the best person to post here but he cares and tells things as best as his stats will show(assuming he's not skewing them)). Conservative Economist and the White Propaganda Machine (Ditto Head), (Lover of Bush-Clinton or Rand Paul) preach such nonsense, the Left are not fear mongering, the real Liberals are not afraid to pay their fair share of taxes as long as they help the US instead of being wasted on Military Weapons and Regime Toppling in the Middle East!
I think were are going to find some interesting facts once more stripping of benefits to the most needy happens. The quest for the Ultra Rich to pay no taxes will naturally segregate the rich from the poor and leave those in between hanging of the cliff. We need preachers of Social Justice and leaders to fight the freaks like Joel Olstein who ameliorate the consciences of the biggest thieves in the United States. They want their empires to carry one like the Rothschild and Gettys. In England or Ireland some archaeologist uncovered a royal tomb dated to around the 2nd or 4th century. Nobody knows how they were or what their names were, in their quest to rule the World the Business Machete will slash the wages of the Blacks even further making the social injustice spread causing more crime and further militarization of the police departments. It's coming people, when your neighbors can't feed their kids because your so worried about not paying taxes for yachts and Bugatti cars($2 million dollar cars!0 we will break!
My teacher was the only white kid attending a high school near Watts, California and he liked it even though he stood out like a sore thumb. The community respected his family from all the good his father did as a preacher who fought the System to get more for a city and people the State wanted to throw away or sweep under their steel matts. When people can't provide for their families because all the greedy companies moved overseas in search of Slave Labor, what do you expect?
The Politicians will change things when the Voters come together and fight instead of behaving apathetically and putting their heads in the sand, one Radio Clown said "I want to quote what some author said back in 1964. "just leave us alone and let us watch our TVs, that's all people really want!" Late NIght Radio Talk Show Clown's message implies those in the City have a TV, they have the liberty to sit on their ass instead of some single mother working three jobs to put poisonous-tainted food on her kids plates. Two locals ran for political office in ran, these two vipers I knew in high school and hated the lower class yet they ended up making it in the head of the School District and the other made Board of Supervisors. They hated the Hispanics and poor and guess whose in charge, they go to their White Churches on Sunday and sharl at the poor!
One more dam thing, these people in the cities don't want to sit on their ass, it's not by choice jobs that pay enough for them to have a family are long gone. Whose fault is it that kids in poor areas have so many obstacles in their path, no all can grow up and be a saint like Bill Cosby who blasted the Blacks as "No Morals", "No Fathers to guide them so they end up sleeping with their own daughters", "Mothers need to restrain themselves from sexually gratifying men who only want to use their body in the black community" I heard him say this while standing next to a black(white wannabee) psychiatrist addressing some of the riches members of the United States, with enemies like Dr. Cosby who needs terrorists?
"By Lyndsey Layton April 15
New research that shows poor children have smaller brains than affluent children has deepened the national debate about ways to narrow the achievement gap.
Neuroscientists who studied the brain scans of nearly
1,100 children and young adults nationwide from ages 3 to 20 found that the surface area of the cerebral cortex was linked to family income. They discovered that the brains of children in families that earned less than $25,000 a year had surface areas 6 percent smaller than those whose families earned $150,000 or more. The poor children also scored lower on average on a battery of cognitive tests.The region of the brain in question handles language, memory, spatial skills and reasoning, all important to success in school and beyond.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/education/new-brain-science-shows-poor-kids-have-smaller-brains-than-affluent-kids/2015/04/15/3b679858-e2bc-11e4-b510-962fcfabc310_story.html
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How Come the Watchtower does not admit "We Don't Know Anything About Bible Prophecy" and come clean?
by PokerPlayerPhil inso many of us have been caught up in the negative effects this religion placed over our lives and those who we love very much.
i am the first one to tell my kids "i don't know s&^^ about this or that subject", if the watchtower is truly our brother or spiritual mother why don't they tell us the following questions we all have asked them?.
1. we screwed up about 1914 and "life is short, go live your life to the fullest while maintaining justice and morality, don't hurt your fellow man by making his life screwed up!.
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A large portion of outspoken Evangelicals don't rely on End Time Prophets like Hal Lindsay's collection (starting in 1969) "The Late Great Planet Earth" and Dr. Harold Camping's End Time predictions, all the prophets of the Rapture are remnants of a time past. I read nice articles by good writers who are not focused on grinding your teeth, preventing people from living a good life or the "doctrine of fear". These guys are brutal against Cults, they don't like people who mistreat others(Shunning is ineffective and demonic according to them) unless the person is someone who hurts little children or blows people up or extorts and extracts illicit gains via things like "child labor", "sex trade", "drug thugs" and "terrorist". The Watchtower can't even come forward with any statement against the killings, the maiming of Christians through Radical Islamic regions.
When was the last time you heard of a Watchtower defender going before the students at Oxford or Harvard to share their wisdom, their social morals to change people's greed or offer cups of water to peaceful protesters trying to change the abuse in their community?
The Watchtower has morphed in to a 700 Club, PTL or Jimmy Swaggart type Organization except they don't show pictures of the starving children or interview the missionaries working to change poverty, develop clean drinking water or solar stoves in Africa and Asia. The Watchtower besides the West-borough Baptist church causes more pain to members and society than good. Since nobody knows when the End will come, why don't they focus on helping humanity instead of creating more shell corporations to hide their money from the lawyers suing for poor-practices of managing pedophiles in the 2000 back to our childhood? I can't see any value the Watchtower is having us, their like fleas or ticks , their parasites using resources without putting anything back. Wasted money to fly Tony Morris to harass homosexuals, deplorable amounts of money are spent to send the jokers to share their intense personal dislikes to anyone stupid enough to obey them.
Catholics do lots for the World through charity, Fundamental Christians in certain churches are trying to make a change for the good, the Watchtower won't move until they see their approach is worthless. What's going to make the Watchtower get unstuck from decades of failed doctrines, worthless teachings and ruined lives and deaths from the Blood Doctrine, lots of people will have to stop attending and donations need to stop and then their will get New Light from their god telling them "We humbly apologize for being calloused men and want you to enjoy as much life, stop feeling guilt over issues that don't bother us(taking vacations with the intent of enjoyment instead of missionary vacations the GB does not do!) working extra to stay afloat and free thinking to question areas that won't kill off the Organization. The Mormons don't expel people for asking questions the Watchtower does, the Fundamentals will not label you "Apostate" for disagreeing with the church pastor!