I personally resent sisters who openly ignore me in the hall stopping by my house so they can piss in my toilet while out in service. And then like clockwork, they ignore me again at the next meeting and pretend they don't know me.
Krista
Krista
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Name Some Trivial Things That Are Big Deals To JWs
by minimus inso many things come to mind to show how silly jws sound in reality.
for example, being allowed to pass the microphones is a big deal, especially to a young brother.
or being given the "privilege" of cutting the grass or working on a "quick-build" is really something special to a jw.
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If The Elders Wanted To Disfellowship YOU, What Action Would YOU Take?
by minimus inwould you go?
would you hire a lawyer?
play cat & mouse games?
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Although I have never been baptized myself I already know what I would do.....NOTHING.
My self respect and pride would not allow me to answer to any man/men. I would not like it since I am still having a bible study and I have most of my family in the WTS but I would stay away and say nothing if told to stop coming or to answer for my behavior/beliefs ect.
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first post, need to purge my feelings!
by Krista inthis is my first post and here's my story.. my father became a witness long ago and my mom remained a lutheran.
our attendance was sporadic due to mom's opposition.
they knew our mom was lutheran and that she kept us from attending many meetings.
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Jayne - You see, I am actually "pretty entangled", not me per se, but through my dad and all of my siblings and their kids. But this will not keep me from "fading away" as you call it, it will just be very heartbreaking.
Hi Greendawn - I have been here only 5 days and I' ve been greatly helped already.
Crumpet - I have thought about doing a doc. about JWs but could not as it would hurt my witness relatives greatly and any chance of communication would be severed completely.
LHG - Thanks for the support. I am no spring chicken at 30 but I take pride in my grooming and have been told by sisters that this is vanity. The sister who harps on this the most is always dripping in gold and gem jewelry. Most of my jewelry is costume and inexpensive. So why can she wear a lot of gold/gems on her neck, fingers, ears ect....but I am told I am vain for working out or wearing makeup? And why is the blood issue so important but the old testament scriptures concerning to abstain from fat are all but ignored? If our bodies are temples on loan to us from God should we not be forbidden to contaminate it with unhealthy fats? And should'nt exercise be encouraged at all times to keep our bodies in peak form as God intended, instead of telling me that I waste too much of my time on vanity, health is not vanity.
Bebu - My hubby is not baptized but I am afraid he'll be angry at me since I am the one who asked him to go to the meetings and after 2 yrs he seems comfortable enough, although he does have some doubts. I need to bring up things up to him slowly issue by issue and not all at once.
Catchthis - I am not from Cal. but had the pleasure of visiting for the first time last year and fell in love with the San Fran area.
Running Man - I never swallowed a lot of their theories, especially the 1914 thing and the faithful and discreet slave class, much to my dads dismay.
Love2beWorldy - Concerning second hand stuff, this is a big contradiction since an elder proudly showed me his collection of 19?? "golden harp?" (not sure of title) books that he got at a thrift store. I guess for an elder it's ok because they are spiritually mature and I am but a "spiritually weak babe". I hate it when they call me that.
Krista
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Hot disputes
by greendawn indid you ever have a hot dispute with someone for whatever reason a dentist that messed up your teeth or a lawyer that stubbed you his client in the back by doing a secret deal with your opponents, someone that sold you expensive shoddy goods or a teacher that gave you unreasonably low marks?
or someone that caused a car accident and in the absence of any witnesses blamed you for it?
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Hi Greendawn,
My only "hot disputes" concern the WTS and my fathers constant picking at me! My dad is not a tyrant and is actually warm and gentle man. Our "hot disputes" are over:
Me not wanting to get baptized yet
Me wanting to use other sources other than WTS materials to get an accurate understanding of God
Me limiting my exposure to this religion
My wide range of non-witness interests
Sorry, this really is not on topic, but the truth in my case as I do not have any non-witness problems.
Krista
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At last finished reading Crisis of Conscience
by diamondblue1974 in.
and what an eye opener it was...dont get me wrong i faded some 10 years ago and the reasons for such were contained in the book, i.e 1914, failed prophecies and so forth.. the expose is disarming by its objective style and whilst i now read any literature through sceptical eyes i could see a person genuinely grieved by what had taken place and the crisis he was subjected to conscientiously; it said it all to me when he said that his aim was not to divert people from the jws but give them support so they could develop as christians and therefore allow them to come to their own conclusions (or words to that effect).. extremely well written and consise with reams of references (which i happen to love).. anyone that is recently out must read this book...it objective, honest and was totally surprising in parts.. db74
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Jeff,
Thank you for your understanding. I just might take you up on your offer someday.
Krista
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Showey Display
by LouBelle inright so i have a younger cousin that works with me (helped him get a job with my company because in s.a you gotto pray you know someone who can help you get a job).
as you know i've left the borg - he's still very much into it.
so yesturday myself, him & a mutual college go off for a lunch at the keg - we order our food and when it comes, he bows his head and prays....silenty - the waitress comes over and thinks he's fallen asleep (narcarpsy sp???
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Hi Loubelle,
I agree totally with your line of thinking here.
Krista
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Do JW's Gamble? You Bet They Do!
by Englishman injust had breakfast in town with a newly-departed local dub elder.. he told me that here in weston, one brother was reported to the elders for frequenting a local betting shop.
the person grassing was a sister.
she claimed to have witnessed (hah!
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The P.O. here mentioned in small talk that he had shares of a particular stock. I was surprised since I considered this a form of gambling. He thought I did not know how stock/bonds ect... work and when he found out differrently he got very defensive and has not said a word to me since and will not so much as look in my direction.
BTW - I have nothing against playing the stock market, but I do have something against hypocrites.
Krista
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At last finished reading Crisis of Conscience
by diamondblue1974 in.
and what an eye opener it was...dont get me wrong i faded some 10 years ago and the reasons for such were contained in the book, i.e 1914, failed prophecies and so forth.. the expose is disarming by its objective style and whilst i now read any literature through sceptical eyes i could see a person genuinely grieved by what had taken place and the crisis he was subjected to conscientiously; it said it all to me when he said that his aim was not to divert people from the jws but give them support so they could develop as christians and therefore allow them to come to their own conclusions (or words to that effect).. extremely well written and consise with reams of references (which i happen to love).. anyone that is recently out must read this book...it objective, honest and was totally surprising in parts.. db74
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Hi Diamond Blue,
Regarding what you called the "severe split" I feel very sad and sickened. I was willing to have a bible study and give it a try, which I am still doing. I know it does'nt make any sense. But my dad, all my siblings and my nieces and nephews are in this thing and that is the big struggle.
I guess I am coming to terms with the reality that our family will be split someday and that's a hard reality to come to.
Krista
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My First Post
by Stress Free ini have been a regular visitor to this forum for the past 2 years or so, finally i got the courage to register.. you guys are an inspiration , your stories and experiences have helped me to take a stand against this controlling org.. in short, i was raised from birth as a jw, parents are from the old school very much hard liners, the society is their god.
is expected of you, get baptised as a teenager become a ms then elder.
i always had my doubts about the society and its teachings but was.
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Welcome S.F.
I am very new here as well but have had a very warm reception.
Read a much as you can. I read "30 Years a Watchtower Slave" and it gave me the strength to live by my own convictions. I hate it when "friends " stop by my house and I have to deal with their ignorant stares and uncomfortable facial expressions due to my rather large library. One of the elders has hinted around more than once that I should get rid of them, that they are of no real value. FAT CHANCE!
About shunning, my dad told me that I was just over sensitive and making something out of nothing. So on my first and only time out in preaching, in a van with 7 other people I got a full dose of JW shunning. Only the driver would take me into account, the rest would not look me in my eyes, would look away or at the floor. Two of these people were my sister and her husband. I am a quick learner and I never agreed to go out again preaching. How ironic, the are approaching stranger's doors with a message of love but can't offer me the common decency of a hello or a little small talk. Sad.
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first post, need to purge my feelings!
by Krista inthis is my first post and here's my story.. my father became a witness long ago and my mom remained a lutheran.
our attendance was sporadic due to mom's opposition.
they knew our mom was lutheran and that she kept us from attending many meetings.
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THANK YOU ALL SOOOO MUCH FOR THE WARM WELCOME!
I have been nervous all day wondering what to expect. Thanks for your caring words of support.
Jaffacake - Concerning my mom, she NEVER bought the JW "vomit". Dad handles it well, he's not the severe, strict type. If she was a non-christian it would have been different but since mom reads her bible most days and tries to apply it in her daily life I think this helped greatly.
Swan - You are right, no one is perfect but trying to deal with people who think they are the next best thing to unleavened passover bread is very frustrating.
Nicolaou - This "evil" grandfather is in a wheelchair, on oxygen and just wants to see his family together before he dies, very sad.
Ken P - I believe in the beauty and truth of the bible and I do agree with your statement of God not being involved with any of these corrupt earthly religions. The JW's are always talking about organized religion. I don't know of any other religion that so regiments their adherents, even down to 15 minute increments. Sick.
jst2laws - I have NOT given up my real friends. I know what you mean about trying to make friends out of people you have NOTHING in common with. It is second in pain only to tooth extraction. At least with tooth extraction with enough pulling you reach a goal but pull and pull as you might with the JWs you get nothing. Let's see....I read quite a bit and they do not. I love world history and world cultures and they do not. I love looking for vintage clothing and antiques at second hand shops and they love second hand shops for digging in musty boxes seeking rare "gems" of complete sets of moldy "pyramid" books. I love world music with singing in foreign languages and they love queer kingdom melodies that sound little better than poorly composed beauty pageant songs. I love studying human nature and debating abstract, philisophical issues and they like parroting back rote answers to stupid questions from a 4th grade reading level paragraph out of a WT. I need to stop, really it's making me depressed.
Nelly - Thanks, and I do hold my head up high. I have nothing to be ashamed of, I' ve done nothing wrong.
Goldminer - Thanks for the book plugs. I came across a book at a flea market called "30 Years a Watchtower Slave", it was the beginning of me finding my own voice.
Zulukai - So true about being "hated nevertheless." I was toning down my makeup (not really much to tone down) and wearing my hair up until my mom said I looked sick with brown shades on my lips and should go back to reds and that my face looked too round with my hair up. Went back to my old grooming habits after a month or so cuz nobody treated me any nicer anyway.
Jojo - Only wear heels at the hall, usually in sweats and sneakers at work and home. Thanks for the "equal opportunity footwear" welcome!
Shelley - "Drama" is an understatement. Mom says I should become a soap writer and use the K.H. for a never ending plethoric stream of juicy material. Theocratic truth is stranger than apostate fiction!
Brenda - Sincere thanks to you, and "no" I was not scared off. A combination of jitters and not being free to type at will (explanation below).
Mjarka - You asked "why am I bogged down with JW bullshit" and the answer is a little messy.... Meaning I have a husband who has now been associating for 2 years and feels a certain level of comfort, as well as my twins. I think my husband would be alarmed a bit if he knew I was posting here, so I waited for him to go to bed. So in other words, I need to proceed with caution. Think of me as Jerry (from Tom & Jerry) in the episode where he finds himself in a dog house lying under a sleeping bulldog and Jerry is ever so slowly trying to wiggle himself out from under the salivating dog without incurring injury. Don't really have a firm plan, just a rough draft to freedom and a lot of playing things by ear.
And you also mentioned "toeing their line" and I kinda get it but not really. My (blood) brother tells me that once I become an unbaptized publisher (which I am not) I could get the "no longer an unbaptized publisher and not associated with JWes" blurb read out loud about me at any thursday meeting if I am not caving into their pressure. And that after than I would have to give them (in my sincerest "I am not a crook" a la Nixon voice) the "Please forgive me for I am an infidel and I have sinned speech" or I plead the fifth and they hit the apostate eject button and I am "outa there." Is this true? So confusing and utterly unnecessary. Thanks all.
Krista