lets work up some good ideas that we can pass on to bethel workers, cos, dos, elders etc... can use to help them to start to find others in the org that know it's not the truth but are stuck inside for various reasons.
lets come up with some way of testing people to so as not to blow ones cover and remain hidden.
plans of espionage that could cause a major blow to the organization from those trapped inside, things like how co can give talks to really discourge the friends and cause them to doubt the organization, all the while it looks like he's are doing what the organization wants him to do.
Looking at this from the outside I don't know if this would work or not. If there is a double agent in a meeting he could stand up and yell, "THIS IS NOTHING BUT A CULT . . . RUN FOR YOUR LIFE!" Then run out of the room. Everyone who follows is in.
Carl
you disassociated or got disfellowshipped and the jws were shunning you.
but then some of them went down the same road as you later.
did they then approach you as ex-jws and apologise for the way they had treated you, and what exactly did they have to say?
I was never a JW but I have been a part of 2 different churches that did many of the same things. I have shunned, and gossiped about, and judged, lots of folks that the leadership said were no longer any good.
One day I finally was able to leave that demented non-church and realized that most of the things I believed about these people were based on what the "leadership" told me. After I realized that their discernment was really judgement, my wife and I could not believe how badly we had treated people while thinking that we were pleasing God. Just utter nonsense.
We began to call people and appologize. Though people reacted differently, we were amazed how much healing it brought when people are told, "You are not the person we said you were. You did not deserve to be treated that way. Will you forgive us?"
Every single person did forgive us though we are not done. Shortly after we left said non-church, the leaders stood up in front of the non-church members and said that we should be avoided. This was the first time in that non-churches history that someone was shunned from the non-pulpit. This was a little special treat reserved just for us. We took comfort in Matthew 5:10-12
Blessed are those who are persecuted for righteousness' sake, For theirs is the kingdom of heaven. Blessed are you when they revile and persecute you, and say all kinds of evil against you falsely for My sake. Rejoice and be exceedingly glad, for great is your reward in heaven, for so they persecuted the prophets who were before you.
Our big sin was telling people how bad the system was, while we were still in a leadership position. All kinds of evil was spoken about us to people that we really cared about and we are sure that they believed it but we understand because we believed the same kinds of stuff about others when we were under the veil. Since then people have come to us as they left the group and asked our forgiveness and we were able to tell them that we forgave them when it happened.
hth
Carl
